John Carmack unveils details about new DOOM
The next entry in the Doom series will suck up “three times the horsepower” of id Software’s other upcoming titles, it said Thursday. Id’s technology whiz John Carmack and Todd Hollenshead announced the new title in the seminal first-person shooter series at the company’s QuakeCon event Thursday. Carmack was comparing the new Doom to id’s other upcoming title Rage.
Both will be built using the company’s ‘Tech 5′ engine, but “the next Doom game will look like it’s built on another engine” because it’s so powerful, said Carmack. To keep up with the processor demands, Doom will run at a frame rate of 30 frames per second, compared to Rage’s 60. Doom will be a multi-platform release, although Carmack said that “the PC version will support significant visual improvements over 360 or PS3 versions.” More details available at Quake Con Keynote at 1up.
Source: Wired
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All hail the god of videogames: John Carmack
Think i’ll wait for axxo release. (movie-category).
anyone still listen to this douchbag?
Hope it’s not just another benchmark game cause Doom3 was pretty dissapointing considering all the hype.
Stick to making engines iD. You can’t make games at all so don’t even bother.
He is sounding just like a PR guy from Crytek already talking sh!t abt FPS & all. Eventually it will come out to force gamers to buy Intel’s Larrabee GPU that will be released almost at the same time IMO.
Being a graphicswhore im really looking forward to this one
”the PC version will support significant visual improvements over 360 or PS3 versions”
Yeah, if you spend about £2000 on a new computer, or buy a new £500 graphics card.
Great news!
here we go again upgrade,upgrade
most prople can’t keep buying new cpu
for a damn games
John Carmack is a smelly cunny juice filled douche bag.
doom3 was great sequel
good to see it wont take so many years to see a new release
Doom is dead!
Carmack and id haven’t made a decent video game since Quake 1, too much time driving around in their Ferraris – there are much bigger hitters around the fps scene nowadays
rage isnt doom!!!
by this logic the title could be:
‘John Carmack unveils details about new QUAKE’
or
‘John Carmack unveils details about new Super Mario Bros’
by the way they planning to release new wolfenstein..
which means i need
500 $ for a video card
300 $ for a new motherboard ( with ddr3 ram )
400 $ for 4 gb ddr3 ram
400 $ for quad intel cpu
550 $for a new screen …bigger…and true high definition
…mmmmmmmmm… vacations vs super pc
i thing im going to pass…
i prefer to spend 500$ for a 10 days trip in Spain and another 500$ for 7days Greek island and 1000 $ for a trip in Brazil and still have money..
Anyone remember the farce that was ‘Daikatana’?
Meh – non-news event.
No offence… =]
16 johnix: You wouldn’t need 300 $ motherboard, no need for DDR3, it’s only slightly faster than DDR2 and costs alot more, ~100-150$ motherboard would be okay and DDR2 is cheap, no need for 500$ GFX-card unless you want to run it all maxed. No need for that expensive quad core..
why does everyone over exaggerate the prices of buying a top PC gaming machine.
DDR3.. not needed. DDR2 at 1066Mhz is cheap enough now.
Two OC 8800GT’s will easily max out this game and many more to come, until the next consoles are released.
If you don’t already have a C2D then you need to be throwing that crappy PC away now anyway. A quad core will not be needed for this game although it might help add a few more frames.
If you spend your money wisely, then you can get a gaming PC thats future proof until the next consoles for a relatively cheap price.
oh yeah, I’m looking forward to this game
Newt182: Yeah, but I would take two 4850s, because they are faster than 8800GT =)
If you cannot show respect for Carmack then please take all your FPS an just burn them, because the id staff that made all those great head-shots over the years possible…
…where…,…rreeeeeeeaaaaill-fuuuoccckehd-uppp-on drugs.
Yes since Quake 3 Arena id has been more about the tech then the creativity, but just look at whats coming:
-Rage (Mad Max anyone?)
-New Doom (not labeled #4, possibly a new/revised story)
-FREE Online Browser Quake (too many possibilities)
-New Wolfenstein (could go either way, lets hope for WW2 Nazi steampunk action)
OMG! When will they stop with FPS???
PC scene is totaly lame….FPS, RTS, and EA.
I’m glad that we have ports from consoles.
http://quakelive.com – if no one noticed
this is a version of quake for office plankton
a quake game in your web browser
doom3 was utterly disappointing, covering game engine mega requirements by black screen, using cheap horror techniques etc. so yeh, it was kind of disaster
if rage will be continuing this kind of direction, definitely not gonna buy a game, neither upgrade pc to play that sh1t.
Daym Truth
That’s my line!! heheh
say hello to the god of Quake 1
Ummm… how in the hell does he expect to get three times the horsepower out of the PS3 but especially the aging hardware of the XBox360? It’s not the CPU’s of these consoles that are weak, but the graphics throughput and more importantly the low memory bandwidth. The PS3’s memory bandwidth is a lowly 22.4 GB/s. That’s equivalent to an Nvidia 8600GT which is hardly capable of rendering today’s high tech games. The high end PC graphics cards today have memory throughput as high as 150 GB/s. They will really have to cut out a lot of what makes these games great.
Since Doom 3 was quite a disappointment for me, I won’t get my hopes up for part 4. Still, if comes to rlslog, I’ll steal…er…DOWNLOAD it!
Regardless if you like his games, his tech and ideas are riddled throughout all games.
I’m not a big fan of any of the games id has produced since quake, but I am a fan of a TON of games that has used his engines.
The fact that he is still inventing graphics techniques should be great news to any gamer on any platform.
I think we all respect how Carmack and co. pioneered FPS technology in the early years, but I’m not gonna get excited about them taking a load of coin from hardware companies for hyping up some new ‘technology’ or ‘techniques’ – the big hitters and cutting-edge designers of games these days are not interested in what Carmack has to bring to the table
Torrent?
Ohh right, this isn’t scene news.
If you know how to code, his opinion is relevant. Don’t be sore that you think his talk is hype.
I look forward to understanding his technical innovations that will bring the industry forward. That is the kind of code he focuses on, his gameplay is still old-school.
Doom = Monster closets
Cheap thrill.
I was a big fan of Quake3 also!
I hope they focus on making some original gameplay mechanics rather than making Crysis style graphics and ridiculous system requirements. I have a bad feeling this might be just like Crysis in that it will run really poorly on most PCs when it comes out, because it sounds like the guy is already bragging about the graphics. I am sick of having to constantly buy a new PC to keep up with system requirements. It seems like gameplay is becoming an afterthought and developers are putting too much emphasis on having the best graphics. The FPS genre needs more originality, not higher system requirements!
Here we go again.
Developer A – The Idiot’s Approach:
Let’s make a game that requires so much computational power to run, you’d need to put another mortgage on your home just to purchase a computer powerful enough.
Developer B – The Smart Guy’s Approach:
Let’s make a game that runs on as many machines as possible (requirements-wise) but let’s be really inventive with the storyline and make it really addictive.
Example of Developer A: iD software
Example of Developer B: Valve software
Obviously there’s a reason why Valve’s Half-Life remained top of the charts for so long compared to most of iD’s recent creations. Eye candy != Good game.
Well I was quite a fan of Doom 3 to be honest, although I never got to play the expansion pack because it isn’t compatible with Vista!
Still I’m looking forward to the next game, whatever the weather.
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itt; Baaawling from people who really dont have a clue, or are too young to comprehend the magnitude of Carmack. He was driving ferraris while you were in pre-school simply because of his programming skillz, enough said. Now would you kindly go back to playing boom blocks?
hmmm i’ll stick to pacman 3d
From the same guy that made daiktana…
@39
Uuhhmm.. I believe you’re confusing John Carmack with John Romero.
Get a brain McBain.
I hear that there will be ’shock pads’ coming along with the game. You place these dime sized pads on various parts of the body (as illustrated in the instruction manual) and connected via USB to your computer. When ever you get hit or mauled by a ‘zombie’ character, you will be ’shocked’ at the spot your were affected by. Until you find ‘health,’ the area(s) will continue to throb. Also, there’s this pr0n video game called ‘Ultimato Gangu Bangu’ where the object of the game is to pleasure and withstand a growing amounts of ‘participants’ without blowing your load. Equip’t with a USB Pocket Pu$$y…well you get the idea.
Yikes. Tossing off on a video game is the wave of the future!
@ 39 McBain
John Romero and John Carmack are different people. Also game engines by id usually scale very well with older/current tech.
Id do make good engines, and they do indeed scale well. I could play Doom 3 on medium/high quality graphics on my then 2 year old Geforce 4 Ti4200 and P4 2 ghz,and the game still looked very good.
There is of course far too much emphasis on graphics over gameplay in most cases nowadays. Even when a game has good gameplay and great presentation like COD 4, it still at 5 hrs tops, seems far too short.
Here a video on whats his talking about
there should have been link at the end of this article
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37903.html
the semi-naked streaker during quakecon 2008 was funny. LOL. on youtube.
http://www.ziddu.com/download/1837490/Doom_New_Vs.avi.html
realism or ultra realism are the only type of fps you should play
the rest are juST FAIL
I pretty much had to use the flashlight cheat and later a flashlight mod that was always on and never lost battery power just to see where I was going. I liked the game overall, but all the darkness pretty much killed it in the eyes of many.
Who played the doom remake based on the doom engine? It was pretty cool to play in in better graphics right?
check it out here: http://doom3.filefront.com/file/Classic_DOOM_3_for_Windows;52163
Carmack = genius
Doom 4 will be awesome!!!
ah doom sucks its just to dark to play i like the concept of Quake, and its fun to play interesting game play for example quake 4 and the new Twars
2000 bucks for a new computrer lmfao!!!. You could build a pc that will smoke every console for about $700nz including graphics card,last time i checked graphics cards like seriously learn what you are talking about because you dont have a clue and you are trying to be all brainy. As for the crytek calls i highly doubt id is gonna pull a crytek thats almost imposible how F! This is good news the end.
F*%king thing posted before i was finished you can buy a 8800gt 512 for $235.13nz, nz is worth half the US dollar. I hate liars, two xbox 360’s in this house, whats the bet hes a ps3 noob.
GeForce 9600 GT, 512MB PCI-Express 229 prices $174.36 AMD AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+, dual core, socket AM2, 2.4Ghz 63 prices $71.55 1GB DDR2-667 PC5300 SDRAM 369 prices $23.00 Midi Tower Case with 400 to 499 Watt PSU, ATX 124 prices $47.80 Samsung SH-S182D 18x DVDRW 6 prices $33.75 Samsung 160GB 7200rpm Serial ATA 39 prices $60.90 0.38/GB… Just for proof thats a 679.32 pc inclu 2gb of ram thats nz money worth crap all thats why this is so cheAp. 4800+ is a 7.2 ghz cpu with 2gb of ram with a tiny simple over clock it could reach 8.4, or you could spend 20 more and get a 6400+, whats this 2000 bull.
I forgot mobo but thats like 70 bucks NZ, remember this cpu with 2gb of ram will eat any console, inculding gpu too bum holes.
also the link to quakecon is no bueno. should read http://www.quakecon.org/
30 fps on John Carmac’s computer = how many fps on my computer??
You don’t need a top of the line system to make the game run and look better than it ever will on a console
Anyone speaking about 2000 dollar PCs and how they’d prefer to spend the money on [insert inane bragging object or activity here] is a complete moron trying to feel good about spending their money on the children’s plug n play system with inferior everything because they can’t handle anything more complex. Or more probably, their mommy won’t buy them more than a single console so they badmouth everything else