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		<title>By: al bundy</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/hd-3800-amd%e2%80%99s-midrange-rebuttal-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-160554</link>
		<dc:creator>al bundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, do you game with 3d mark 2006? LOL! who cares about it! its the most useless benchmarking gauge tool out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, do you game with 3d mark 2006? LOL! who cares about it! its the most useless benchmarking gauge tool out there.</p>
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		<title>By: TJW</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/hd-3800-amd%e2%80%99s-midrange-rebuttal-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-156644</link>
		<dc:creator>TJW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a sli setup right now..
Two 7600GS 512meg cards
I&#039;m awaiting my 8800GT I got from ZipZoomFly..
I got the eVGA8800GT with 512meg for $250

Once they get more in stock, I&#039;ll surely be getting another to do some sli action..

ATI lost me as a consumer Years ago.. Back in the days of 8meg video cards.. I&#039;ve never looked back. They have always had crappy drivers, and always will. Their hardware is cheap. You may get lucky and have a good card here or there, but over the years many of my buddys have gone with ATi.. mainly due to the price points.. They have all regretted it down the road.. Nvidia all the way for me.
The ONLY ATi setup I enjoy, is the one that is in my Xbox360...

 -nuff said-

 -TJW-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a sli setup right now..<br />
Two 7600GS 512meg cards<br />
I&#8217;m awaiting my 8800GT I got from ZipZoomFly..<br />
I got the eVGA8800GT with 512meg for $250</p>
<p>Once they get more in stock, I&#8217;ll surely be getting another to do some sli action..</p>
<p>ATI lost me as a consumer Years ago.. Back in the days of 8meg video cards.. I&#8217;ve never looked back. They have always had crappy drivers, and always will. Their hardware is cheap. You may get lucky and have a good card here or there, but over the years many of my buddys have gone with ATi.. mainly due to the price points.. They have all regretted it down the road.. Nvidia all the way for me.<br />
The ONLY ATi setup I enjoy, is the one that is in my Xbox360&#8230;</p>
<p> -nuff said-</p>
<p> -TJW-</p>
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		<title>By: James Bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can run all modern games at (AT LEAST) Medium settings, that means, sometimes its high, but its never low.  And I always play at 1680 x 1050 resolution.

Crysis...........Smooth as silk
Gears of War.....Not too bad
BioShock.........Smooth as silk
Episode 2........Smooth as silk

And this is all with a ATI X1900xtx (a very old car), but top of the line at its time (year ago).

I am not going to be buying this line of video cards, because I feel my card is as good as can be for me right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can run all modern games at (AT LEAST) Medium settings, that means, sometimes its high, but its never low.  And I always play at 1680 x 1050 resolution.</p>
<p>Crysis&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Smooth as silk<br />
Gears of War&#8230;..Not too bad<br />
BioShock&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Smooth as silk<br />
Episode 2&#8230;&#8230;..Smooth as silk</p>
<p>And this is all with a ATI X1900xtx (a very old car), but top of the line at its time (year ago).</p>
<p>I am not going to be buying this line of video cards, because I feel my card is as good as can be for me right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Inevitable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inevitable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any links that prove 9800GTX will be available this or next month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any links that prove 9800GTX will be available this or next month?</p>
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		<title>By: Big-Byte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big-Byte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,
I use an 8800GTX, all works fine, but how can I use DX10 under XP ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,<br />
I use an 8800GTX, all works fine, but how can I use DX10 under XP ???</p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/hd-3800-amd%e2%80%99s-midrange-rebuttal-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-153340</link>
		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slight failure.
The memory in the XFX 8800GTX Ultra XXX was running at 2.3GHz, not 2.2GHz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slight failure.<br />
The memory in the XFX 8800GTX Ultra XXX was running at 2.3GHz, not 2.2GHz.</p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
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		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That and the Ultras are a joke. The amount you can overclock any of them is the same as the GTXs with the exception of those few freak chips that are hand selected to be pushed too far. An example would be the XFX 8800GTX Ultra &#039;XXX&#039; Edition. 675mhz core speed and 2200mhz memory. That was more some form of stunt to grab more business on XFX&#039;s part, but it also had its problems. Games like BF2 and Oblivion would not run correctly with the card clocked that high, and the GPU would have to be underclocked from its stock speed just to attain stable gameplay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That and the Ultras are a joke. The amount you can overclock any of them is the same as the GTXs with the exception of those few freak chips that are hand selected to be pushed too far. An example would be the XFX 8800GTX Ultra &#8216;XXX&#8217; Edition. 675mhz core speed and 2200mhz memory. That was more some form of stunt to grab more business on XFX&#8217;s part, but it also had its problems. Games like BF2 and Oblivion would not run correctly with the card clocked that high, and the GPU would have to be underclocked from its stock speed just to attain stable gameplay.</p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
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		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24

GT comes in over the GTS and under the GTX

The only thing keeping it from going over the GTX\\Ultra in performance is its memory bandwidth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24</p>
<p>GT comes in over the GTS and under the GTX</p>
<p>The only thing keeping it from going over the GTX\\Ultra in performance is its memory bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Banem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as they create prices in USA $ we all on Euro side could not be more than happy! Comparing to year 2004 this is cut in price of 46% right from the start! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as they create prices in USA $ we all on Euro side could not be more than happy! Comparing to year 2004 this is cut in price of 46% right from the start! <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GGMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GGMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one good thing abpout ATI card&#039;s.
1)  You can crossfire 3850 with the 3870
2)  When ATI/AMD  release their new motherboards you can have up to 4 GPU&#039;s.

So I can purchase a 3870 this month, another in months, next month agian etc.  This way I am getting DX10 &amp; it does not hurt me budget.

And no, I cant save.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one good thing abpout ATI card&#8217;s.<br />
1)  You can crossfire 3850 with the 3870<br />
2)  When ATI/AMD  release their new motherboards you can have up to 4 GPU&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So I can purchase a 3870 this month, another in months, next month agian etc.  This way I am getting DX10 &amp; it does not hurt me budget.</p>
<p>And no, I cant save.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont give so much about this info, the gts8800 I have plays good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont give so much about this info, the gts8800 I have plays good</p>
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		<title>By: RU486</title>
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		<dc:creator>RU486</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8800GTX Ultra = BadMofo
Then:
GTX
GTS
Then lastly, the GT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8800GTX Ultra = BadMofo<br />
Then:<br />
GTX<br />
GTS<br />
Then lastly, the GT</p>
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		<title>By: EN</title>
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		<dc:creator>EN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8800GT isnt high end? what is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8800GT isnt high end? what is?</p>
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		<title>By: ZombieBunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZombieBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never base a graphics card purchase on a single benchmark (game or software), considering graphics card companies pay millions to be the official face of various big games nowdays.

The truth is, both the 8800GT and 3870 are kickass cards in the budget class, especially for the dx9 generation games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never base a graphics card purchase on a single benchmark (game or software), considering graphics card companies pay millions to be the official face of various big games nowdays.</p>
<p>The truth is, both the 8800GT and 3870 are kickass cards in the budget class, especially for the dx9 generation games.</p>
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		<title>By: ssrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running a 1950 right now though unless Nvidia gets off there A** and gets a Dx10.1 by mid Dec AND is no more than $250 then it looks like I will pick up the 3870 (or the next up, not announced yet), then maybe a 3850 to SLI which is possible now, no more must match to molecular density stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running a 1950 right now though unless Nvidia gets off there A** and gets a Dx10.1 by mid Dec AND is no more than $250 then it looks like I will pick up the 3870 (or the next up, not announced yet), then maybe a 3850 to SLI which is possible now, no more must match to molecular density stuff</p>
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