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Hacker faces 10 years for taking down Scientology

Posted on 20.10.2008 at 17:14 in Tech News by Martin

An 18-year-old New Jersey man will plead guilty to the January online attacks that took down the Church of Scientology’s Web site, federal prosecutors said Friday. Dmitriy Guzner of Verona, New Jersey, was part of an underground hacking group called Anonymous that has made the church a target of several attacks. He was charged Friday but has agreed to plead guilty sometime in the next few weeks, the U.S. Department of Justice said in a statement. He faces 10 years in prison on computer hacking charges.

The attacks began Jan. 19 and managed to knock the Scientology.org Web site offline by hitting it with several bursts of unwanted Internet traffic. The attack, known as a distributed denial of service (DDOS) attack, flooded the site with as much as 220M bps of traffic, according to computer security firm Arbor Networks. That’s considered to be a decent-sized DDOS attack and was enough to disable the Web site temporarily. Anonymous quickly followed its attacks with a series of YouTube videos, claiming its actions were a response to what it said were efforts by the Church to suppress a video of movie star Tom Cruise professing his admiration for the religion.

Source: PC World

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  1. GhostGum
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:17

    A true hero.

    The world needs more people like him.

  2. BlackMass
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:23

    this guy should be exempt from paying tax for the rest of his life, a real hero.

  3. nimr0d
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:23

    sucks that anonymous never really made any action on their threats other than the first attack… they had such a cool vid… and then… nothing… bah

  4. Luke
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:24

    Why is the news so intent on misidentifying all sorts of thing that are definitely not “hacking”?

  5. pug206
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:25

    So a “church” is willing to send a man to prison for taking down a web site? Nice one guyz! So i suppose YOUR GOD is not of the ones that FORGIVES?! Yeah it is very church-like to send an 18 year old to jail for playing around with his PC just because you damn useless people didn’t give him something better to do (maybe a f****** job!) now that the whole world is in crysis…

  6. ShEsHy
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:29

    We definitely need more people like him. Especially, if they’ll manage to shut down Scientology’s site permanently. I mean, let’s get serious, how dare they name a CULT that’s entirely based on a Sci-Fi novel, Scientology? It’s completely absurd, they have nothing to do with science.

    Sorry for the off topic ranting

    The fact is, what he did was right in my book, and if I could hack, I’d DDOS it myself too ;)

  7. pt
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:30

    10 years in prison… hero to an hero.

  8. ffs!
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:30

    scientologists are evil vermin-nuke em all!

  9. xyztynz
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:32

    Anonymous was truly an hero. R.I.P.

  10. user
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:33

    Ouch, glad I didn’t participate in the fun.

  11. ShEsHy
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:33

    @pug206
    You’re mostly right, except for the God part, Scientologists don’t believe in God, they think that life on Earth was created by an alien who threw some “people” down here from space a long long time ago and then nuked it :s

    I personally am an atheist, but I’d sooner believe in God than in that lame ass story.

  12. r0ck
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:34

    Why isn’t there a website where people can donate for his legal fees already? This guy needs to walk. No religion should ever be allowed to act like Scientology does, hell, the “regular” churches at least have laws that govern what they’re allowed to do. Pseudotology has no authority to answer to whatsoever, they don’t even pay taxes in most places. They’re a cult nothing less.

    And why is “Anonymous” referred to as a hacker group? Has nothing to do with hacking per se. The group consists of individuals that have no special purpose or intent other than to stop Scientology. It’s like saying Windows is a Hacker tool because so many script kiddies are using it. Get a grip guys.

  13. LR4004
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:36

    Give this man a medal…when he’s out. ;-)

  14. Mx3
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:36

    I absolutly agree with everyone who wrote a comment here.

    We cant kick the ass of those stupid scientology guys, well then take down there damn web presence.

  15. hobo
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:38

    Scientology is NOT a church, but a brain washer organization, has a lot of money. Unfortunatelly money talks, hero sucks… We can feel with you mate!!!

  16. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:39

    Scientology video channel on YouTube:
    http://www.youtube.com/churchofscientology

  17. great idea
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:40

    This kid should get a freaking medal… not jail time…

  18. Hoe
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:40

    hopefully he is raped in prison, then he will learn his lesson. Just because it belongs to a website that you dont agree with doesnt mean its not illegal. If someone did it to this site im sure the owners would all be pissed too and want legal action taken.

  19. Anonymous
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:43

    I’ll donate £100.

    Anyone set up that webpage already?

    PS – My wife just yelled that she is in with another 100 quid sterling and my daughter would like to donate £15 from her piggy bank. (thats a 1.5 weeks of her pocketmoney)

  20. jared
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:49

    10 yrs is a longgggg time for taking down such a pile of a site

  21. Guxt
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:51

    Scientology is crap, and I can’t believe that people that believe in forgiveness will send someone 10 years to jail. I will say that to any scientologist that I run into and we all have to do that. This is f.unbelievable. We have to make a campaign against that cult right now. They deserve to have all of us in the world against them.

  22. Nobody
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:55

    There are legal avenues of protest available. As much as one objects to the actions of the “church”, it is important to remember that criminal acts such as this will have little to no lasting effect, as well-meaning as they may be.

    http://www.whyweprotest.net/ is a worthwhile starting point, for those who are serious about changing this.

    PS: Various news outlets reporting on this story have given a figured for estimate loss of profit due to the DDoS. Interesting “church” there.

  23. cracked
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:56

    Wow, that kid is a true hero. Scientology isnt a religon, its a force of evil. And that boy did the heroic act of attacking them. This punishment just shows how powerful and how much influence those crybaby Scientologists really have. Seriously? 10 years for HACKING A WEBSITE! This act will only make those who oppose their cult more united, stronger and more powerful than they can ever imagine.

  24. RawGee
    October 20th, 2008 | 17:59

    give any scientologists the one flop!

  25. steve
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:05

    who gives a flying fuk its not like theyre trying to recruit everyone. theyre just a religion where they sit around jerking each other off with how smart and good they all are.

  26. T33to
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:07

    Anonymous is a hacker group now?

  27. Johney666
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:11

    1. This shows how much flawed the current US Cyber-Security Laws are!
    2. This shows that cult is truely a no-good evil outfit.
    3. Only in USA the autorities will be so serious to find out someone like this teenager, who actually did NOTHING wrong and actually worked as a defender of the moral values on the basis of which the human civilisation is established.

    I think the proper course of action now would be to collect money from the streets to free this hero, who is unhesitatingly ready to become a martyr in the fight for truth.

  28. church
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:13

    It’s a shame Anonymous won’t go after Christianity, a religion that has caused more harm than Scientology.

  29. Hmmmm
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:19

    To be fair if scientology is a brainwashing religion then so are a lot of people’s top 2 fave religions Christianity and Islam. I wonder how this dude got caught? He was part of a group called Anonymous but he’s not so anonymous anoymore. Part of me wants to laugh at that but part is like damn facing 10 yrs. for taking down a website for a while @ 18 yrs. old damn. People have went to jail for 2 or 3 months for effin’ murder come on smh.

  30. seanb
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:19

    How do you “go after” christianity? it’s everwhere. that’s like organizing an effort to kill all mosquitos. They’re kinda everywhere. You just have to find a way to keep them away from you, and live with the fact that some people are gonna keep getting drained.

  31. ek
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:25

    They better treat this kid real well in prison

  32. lulz
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:25

    he did it for the lulz

  33. Lisa
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:33

    He must pay for his crimes, and so will all of you protesters.

  34. SemDD
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:37

    The unlucky Dmitry probably pleaded guilty so as to get below minimal sentence and (hopefully) on probation.
    on another count, I didn’t know the Anons are now a “hacker” group. the cops seems to label them everywhere like this…

    The scientologist’s “church” does deserve a lot of battling and defamation for the brainwashing they perform, and so do the other bigger fish in the pond of the organized religion.
    being “legal” is not usually the same as justified or fair and time will tell the difference, even after centuries.
    just imagine if yahweh had a money-back guarantee? ;-)

  35. ScytheNoire
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:41

    So when a company like MediaDefender does attacks that cripple or take down a site, it’s not a crime, even when they do it against someone like Revision3 who isn’t even a P2P site.

    But when someone does an attack on the site of a cult, they go to jail and it’s a crime?

    People need to start suing MediaDefender and their MAFIAA clients for their hack attacks.

  36. jupiter
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:47

    @13,

    sure, yes. you;re a true idiot.

  37. Da Don
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:54

    Why 10 years for a hacking crime, but when you kill some one you only get like 5 to 6 year….. messed up!

  38. Nero
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:57

    This dude is a hero…he should get a reward or something…:P

  39. inkognito
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:57

    scientology isn’t a church, it’s brainwashing cult, banned in several countries.

  40. OMFG
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:58

    Lisa suck my atheist d…

  41. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:02

    Brainwashing is a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, esp. through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques. (From Dictionary.com Unabridged)

    It is known and widely acknowledged that the Church of Scientology and its members are against drugs. Drug use or abuse is not something that the Church is accused of.

    Torture is against the law in most (if not all) countries, certainly in the US, and if the Church of Scientology was on trial for torture, I’m sure it would be front page news.

    Psychological-Stress techniques would include restraint, food and sleep deprivation, use of images and/or noise in combination with increasing doses of physical pain. (e.g. A Clockwork Orange)

    Another term for brainwashing is “coercive persuasion”, however in 1987, members of the APA (American Psychological Association) and ASA (American Sociological Association) stated in a briefing to the Supreme Court of California that the “theory of coercive persuasion … is not accepted in the scientific community” and that the methodology of advocates of this theory are “repudiated by the scientific community”.

  42. rlsmaster
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:05

    All good causes need their martyrs.

    Good job, you 18-year-old New Jersey man.

  43. FREE DMITRIY GUZNER
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:18

    FREE DMITRIY GUZNER

  44. fee
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:19

    All religions rely on brainwashing ALL at least scientology puts focus on the fact that ALL religion is inherently evil.

  45. Nick
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:22

    the only thing he did wrong was get caught ^^

  46. Felon
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:22

    The kid wont goto prison for 10 yrs. He’ll appeal and maybe get home detention or somthing of that nature. Although it is messed up that a church is willing to send someone away instead of just “forgiving” them.

  47. cracked
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:23

    The cult IS responsible for brainwashing innocent people. There are dozens of cases of crimes scientology has been accused of. And they’ve managed to escape all of them using their teams of high priced lawyers. Scientology is nothing more than cult full of lies. Ron L hubbard famously said the easiest way to become a millionaire is making your own religon! A few years later he founded this cult!

  48. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:25

    fee,
    don’t forget to add something like IMHO to your statement.

  49. Boo
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:30

    scientology = cult. glad to see they keep making such great PR moves

  50. lulz
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:33

    Hackers on steroids !

  51. pete
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:34

    murder someone here in finland and you get same conviction as hacker in usa. I think both sentences should be reconsidered

  52. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:35

    cracked,
    dozens of criminal complaints can be filed against you one sunny day. This alone DOES NOT make you a criminal.

    As for the phrase about making million dollars: this is a pretty popular rumor. It was allegedly uttered at the Eastern Science Fiction Association meeting of 7 November 1948. Other reports have it in 1947, or in a bar, or in Lloyd Arthur Eshbach’s hotel room. Here’s what is known: In 1938, science-fiction writer George Orwell wrote in A Letter to Jack Common “But I have always thought there might be a lot of cash in starting a new religion…”. In addition, both David A. Kyle and Jay Kay Klein both signed affidavits that the incident did not take place. Most of these claims are from decidedly anti-Hubbard books, including one co-written by Hubbard’s estranged son.

  53. erok713
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:40

    The Cult of Scientology

  54. DeerDance
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:44

    theres no way in hell that he goes to prison for 10 years.
    Its just for public to fear the illegal actions by announcing the greatest possible sentence for felony,

    10 years is for DDOS attack web page for several hours, stabing a pregnant lady and burning the flag.

    Also i wonder why Pope dont sue them for using word church.
    probably scared of them ^^

  55. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:49

    10 years is statutory MAXIMUM prison sentence for violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(5)(A)(i), (B)(i), which is unauthorized impairment of a protected computer. Know the law.

  56. gentlemen
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:52

    *Insert video footage of car being blown up*

  57. saiyani
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:56

    My IDOL!!!

  58. L. Ron Drugpig
    October 20th, 2008 | 19:58

    “hopefully he is raped in prison, then he will learn his lesson.”

    Poster is a brainwashed scieno, obviously. Hopefully, his nut cult scam is wiped of the face of the earth because people grow a few IQ points and stop being played for suckers.

    In the meantime, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have been legal to kick the moneychangers out of the temple. But you know who did that?

    Answer: Not L. Ron Hubbard

  59. juju
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:01

    @54

    +1

  60. syaa
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:04

    Please correct your description. It is the Cult of Scientology. They’d like the world to believe that they’re a church, but they’re not. A bit like creationism tries to pass as a science…

  61. erok713
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:10

    @54

    If the Pope wasn’t scared of PETA. (They demanded he stop wearing a rabbit lined fur. He said no. And he’ll continue to eat rabbit stew as well.) I doubt he is afraid of The Church of Scientology. I don’t think the Catholic Church has exclusive rights to the word “Church”.

  62. Felon
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:10

    Snoopy a DUI has a Maximum prison sentance of 5 yrs but that doesnt mean you will get sentenced the full amount. The maximum means that the snetence cannot be nay harsher than 10 yrs. Meaning that hell never get 10 yrs. Learn how to read.

  63. leit
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:13

    I guess he wasn’t anonymous enough :/ Scientologies won that battle :/

  64. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:22

    Felon,
    I meant exactly what you have just said.

  65. Twassive Matt
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:22

    2 of the worst vermin on the planet – hackers and scientologists.

    a double win!

  66. An Hero
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:24

    That’s what you get if you’re not behind seven proxies.

  67. aaa
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:25

    10 years for taking down a site? You have got to be sh!tting me. Clearly scientology has some well-placed members in the legal system. I can’t believe there are so many people stupid enough to fall for scientology.

  68. dfx
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:27

    sucks they found him :( wondering how they managed it… maybe vith youtube cooperation?

  69. gordon
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:33

    Right, we need a petition, not some sh**ty one that someone wrote in 10 mins, a proper full petition

  70. Tom Allen
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:41

    For this, i’m stating up my webstress tool on Scientology. Bastards need to die!!!!!!

  71. Qred
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:45

    Scientology makes more sense than the cult of chritianity. Atleast they dont burn and maim those who dont belive in it.

    Jesus christ, youre like a bunch of christian rednecks going after diffirent religion. You guys should look at the definition of an “extremist” because right now youre acting like one.

    He’s going to jail for breaking the law, what so wonderous and surprising about that? And yes, you’re right, he’s not going to be in jail for a decade.

    “personally am an atheist, but I’d sooner believe in God than in that lame ass story.” – ShEsHy

    God is a lame ass story.

    I am agnostic.

  72. eyeshot
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:52

    DDOS isnt really hacking, more of a script kid thing to do.

  73. calling
    October 20th, 2008 | 20:55

    Damn those scientologists. This guy is a TRUE HERO!!!

  74. NightEyez©
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:13

    1. This shows how much flawed the current US Cyber-Security Laws are!
    2. This shows that cult is truely a no-good evil outfit.
    3. Only in USA the autorities will be so serious to find out someone like this teenager, who actually did NOTHING wrong and actually worked as a defender of the moral values on the basis of which the human civilisation is established.

    The reason for No.1 is because Tom Cruise is one of them

  75. allah
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:26

    @74. In other countries they would hang you if they found people doing things like this.

    If anything, Scientologists should be getting 10 years.

    In any case the attacker should be awarded for this, not jailed.

  76. Nobody
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:30

    @71, and anyone else who does not understand these complaints:

    Please, do some reading.

    http://www.whyaretheydead.net/
    http://www.exscientologykids.com/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)

    The resources available go on, and on. Even if you dismiss half of them as pure fiction, there’s still more than enough to prompt serious questions, one would hope. Aside from that, there are noteable court documents viewable online, where some of the most serious allegations (and relevant admissions by the church) are viewable – pretty concrete evidence.

    I personally am irreligious – but I resent the operation of the world’s most elaborate pyramid scheme in my country, avoiding tax by disguising itself as a religion – preying upon the vulnerable, all the while doing everything they can to destroy those who would dare to be critical of their organisation.

    Of course, they are not the only “religion” guilty of this, but that does not in any way mitigate the seriousness of the problem.

    PS: Of course, I am not debating that what this individual did was wrong. As noted, there are legal avenues of protest.

  77. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:38

    The majority of attack against the Church of Scientology is run by a small group of apostates and professional intolerants. These people seldom do more than allege the Church has committed crimes and get those allegations disseminated across the internet. And since it appears to be more en vouge to bash something than defend it (especially when you know nothing about it) their campaigns appear to be successful. The actual fact is, their campaigns are not successful, based on the recent rapid expansion of Scientology.

    I suppose these people feel they are doing the public some sort of service by attacking Scientology and other religions and religion in general, but all they do is propagate hate, intolerance and ultimately reveal their own criminal activities.

  78. Tuge Hits
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:44

    why are people offering their thoughts on scientology? the article is about a script kiddy who brought down a website. laws must be in place to deal with these little cyber-cretins; whether you like tom cruise or not has absolutely nothing to do with it.

  79. Nobody
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:49

    @77:

    Nice copypasta! :) Your post is word for word:

    http://www.scientologymyths.info/cult-or-religion/who-is-accusing-scientology-of-being-a-cult-and-attacking-it.php

    I’m providing my sources, you should too.

    @78: Aside from the execution itself, there are another two parts to any action: consequence, and motive. They all deserve attention.

  80. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:54

    Nobody,
    Good for you! Now you can read the WHOLE thing as you found it by yourself.

  81. docwho
    October 20th, 2008 | 21:59

    who is with me to take this f*cking site down again and again and again?

    to take down a site is simple. if you want to sue someone, sue the site admin..

  82. Nobody
    October 20th, 2008 | 22:07

    @80: You’re no doubt aware that the site is maintained by a female scientologist in her spare time? There are also instances where the ‘unbiased facts’ which are posted there are word-perfect copies of official press releases from the church. Seems like a potential for undisclosed bias.

    I wouldn’t have much of an objection here – if she’d managed to point out somewhere on the site her affiliation with the church. I guess it must have slipped her mind.

    Of course, in response to your obvious counter-point, none of the sources I’m using can be guaranteed to be free of bias either (court documents aside), but then, at least they managed to point out what side they were on, right? ;)

  83. common sense
    October 20th, 2008 | 22:21

    Johney666
    October 20th, 2008 | 18:11
    1. This shows how much flawed the current US Cyber-Security Laws are!
    2. This shows that cult is truely a no-good evil outfit.
    3. Only in USA the autorities will be so serious to find out someone like this teenager, who actually did NOTHING wrong and actually worked as a defender of the moral values on the basis of which the human civilisation is established.

    I think the proper course of action now would be to collect money from the streets to free this hero, who is unhesitatingly ready to become a martyr in the fight for truth.
    ————————————-
    Well that just goes to show that all of the dweebs here that are cheering for this creep are nothing more then script kiddies. It does not take skill to hack a webpage as anyone with a computer for the first time can find out how to do this on google for crying out loud. What you do not or will not understand is that this site belongs to someone else and if he crossed state lines in his hacking, then sorry charlie as it is now a federal felony offense and 10 years sounds just about right for something like that. The law they most likely used was the Violence against Women act sect 109 which makes ANY form of stalking or actions on the net that could cause harm to a person, a federal felony. Makes no difference if the kid is 18 or not, he is an adult now and he will be tried as an adult now.

    Oh and BTW, this VAWC law was passed by what seems to be the prevailing political party here…Democrats and was signed into law by the liberal Bill Clinton. SO go right on ahead and place NObama in the WH, as he has already got a Internet Cybercrimes Commissioner picked out ready to start going after posters and sites like this one the day after he is elected. Then what are ya gonna do as it has been clearly shown that the Hollywood attorneys can reach out and touch you no matter where you are.

    A hero? Not hardly as he will soon be a jailhouse bi%ch and let us see how well his “hacking” skills does him when his cellmate decides that he is to be his ‘girlfriend’for the next 10 years. He will need a cork and adult diapers when he gets out.

  84. Tuge Hits
    October 20th, 2008 | 22:33

    @83

    +1

  85. darwin
    October 20th, 2008 | 22:44

    Please destroy Scientology! It’s a brain eating worm.

  86. kemar
    October 20th, 2008 | 22:45

    this seems very minor 10 years is a lttle harsh for a 18 year old

  87. ShEsHy
    October 20th, 2008 | 22:48

    @71
    OK, so lets start at the beginning:

    Scientology makes more sense than the cult of chritianity. Atleast they dont burn and maim those who dont belive in it.

    -Burning was reserved for witches, not for non-believers, and besides, when was the last reported case of either? Talk about digging up dirt.

    Jesus christ, youre like a bunch of christian rednecks going after diffirent religion. You guys should look at the definition of an “extremist” because right now youre acting like one.

    - We are not going after a religion, because Scientology is not one. Extremism would be if we forcibly tried to convert Scientologists to our religion, but we aren’t doing that, we’re just ranting about it.

    He’s going to jail for breaking the law, what so wonderous and surprising about that? And yes, you’re right, he’s not going to be in jail for a decade.

    - You’re right there, he is going to jail and it’s not going to be for 10 years, but nevertheless, what he did doesn’t even deserve 1 year of prison.

    “I personally am an atheist, but I’d sooner believe in God than in that lame ass story.” – ShEsHy

    God is a lame ass story.

    I am agnostic.

    - Of course God existing is pushing it, I’m an atheist for Gods (;)) sake, but Scientology is even more far-fetched, I mean, come on, we were made when an alien nuked some other aliens, that’s just absurd.

    From my standpoint, Scientology in nothing more than a massively oversized, overadvertised, overinfluental cult, and nothing more.

  88. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:08

    ShEsHy,

    It is you who will tell others what is religion and what is not? )))))))

  89. L. Ron Wifebeater
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:20

    Heh. Snoory is a scieno. His ‘hat’ is to search the internet for negative comments about the cult, and post rebuttals. But his so-called ‘church’ doesn’t trust him enough to read the posts here — if he does too much of that, a glimmer of truth might get through and start casting doubt on his ridiculous belief system. Nor do they trust him to post his own thoughts, because he probably isn’t sufficiently rich/senior to have completed the highest levels — that ones that reveal all the Xenu stuff — so they have him cutting and pasting like a monkey.

    Poor, poor Snoory. Eventually he’ll come to his senses. They almost all do eventually. But he’ll be many, many years older, and thousands and thousands of dollars poorer.

    Would you like to take a personality test, Snoory? It’ll help you look at the weaknesses in your personality that made you sign your life away to a science fiction nut cult founded by a meglomaniacal con-man who liked to get wasted on dope and beat his wife? Only $700,000 for the whole course — or you could sign us over your soul for eternity — either way, it’s an absolute bargain.

  90. dave
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:21

    What this idiot did is the self same thing as the inquisition, or various cults of christianity burning to death members of other christian cults. Freedom of religion (one of the greatest freedoms of modern societies) means the freedom to believe whatever you want, and to modify that belief system as many times as you like. The irony is that scientology was founded when Hubbard (a pulp-sci-fi author) noticed that the geeks that wrote into the magazines resembled early religious fanatics (just like this idiot kid). He tested his thesis in a most amusing way, and proved himself correct.

    However, all religions have such bad beginnings. Later, they outgrow their stupid origins in all kinds of fascinating ways, and scientology is no exception. At the moment scientology is provably vastly less harmful than the psychopathic trilogy of judaic religions (judaism, christianity, and islam).

    In reality, all organised religion is fundamentally horrific. People should restrict themselves to personal spiritual beliefs arising from their own thoughts and experiences. If protest is to be made, it should be against the concept of ALL organised religion.

  91. Snoory
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:26

    L. Ron Wifebeater,

    I am a Scientologist for more than 10 years and I live in Russia. And who are you?

  92. Socrates
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:31

    @91 You are welcome to be w/e you want to be, just keep your ass in Russia.

  93. Example
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:36

    Well, I don’t know about you guys, but as far as I can tell 220MBPS is pretty sick-o! A DDoS of this magnitude is not something that comes along easily: the kid must have cracked either several serious Internet gateways or a whole crapload of other servers – doing this with cracked/infected home PCs would probably take thousands of connected boxes and seems a little far-fetched, though not impossible. Taking this fact into account, it somehow does not surprise me his action affected a whole bunch of (well-payed) people, hence resulting in the calculated figures of financial loss – theoretically. However, in reality this means a bunch of lazy, fat-ass server admins sitting in their mightly favoured chairs have to make a couple of clicks to patch their systems.

    Perceiving it in this way might make one realize the US laws regarding Internet crime are indeed off-charts. Even though the Internet is stable and it does in fact work, the it is still far from perfect, if it ever can and will be just that. Connecting to the Internet and offering services always brings a serious risk to your machine if you don’t have the latest security patches or are a victim of an 0-day/unreleased exploit, simply because that is the way machines and the Internet work – they can’t think for themselves and have to rely on human input instead. The damage done by this young man is more of a financial nature, and since he has been identified, it would only seem more fair and related for that matter to send this offender the bills of the damage instead of putting him in jail. I’m mostly curious as to what will happen afterwards – will he still get a large money bill after doing time or is the entire damage in this case recompensated by the government? Because if that is in fact the case, the decision to lock him up, even though morally poor, might just, financially speaking, cover the bills made.

    If he does have to pay some sort of financial sum afterwards they might just as well have executed him on the spot – Game over. Such extreme measurements for a, contextually speaking, pretty serious offense, but relatively to the law, petty crime.

    Misjudgement-day for the poor kid.

    Since the Scientology folks apparently filed charges, we can’t blindly ignore the fact they are involved. I mean, Sci-Fi is a pretty neat genre and allows a lot of freedom and creativity for one who knows how to express a story, but… I guess you should just decide on that one for yourself. What we do know however is that there’s a lot of rich and influential people who attract eachother involved with this particular organization, which is also the lead cause for me to write this extensive comment – could this highly immoral court decision be somewhat biased? As far as I can tell, there might be some reason for speculation – but I’ll leave that up to you.

  94. GK
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:38

    They are using him and 10 years as a scare tactic.
    Scientology is….. well, anyone of sound mind can see through the illusion, but first you must have been immersed in its deeps, as those of you that speak ill of it, yet have never been there, speak empty/uneducated words.
    My personal opinion of this “religion?” is of disgust, but unfortunately, if you do the crime, you do the time.
    5r()><4|-| 73313 always slip under/through the scope.
    Maybe they will research more now ;)

  95. FX2908
    October 20th, 2008 | 23:48

    It’s really too much time for the crime commited

  96. DDS
    October 21st, 2008 | 00:35

    WOW! 220mbps surely killed that website for a few hours.
    But I don’t think the guy deserves 10 years in prison just for taking down some cult website.

  97. couldntcareless
    October 21st, 2008 | 00:54

    Re #5
    Their ‘god’ is an alien so…….
    Don’t approve of hacking but they couldn’t have chosen a more deserving target. he/they should all get medals for services to humanity – the Nobel Peace Prize?

  98. MS13
    October 21st, 2008 | 01:00

    Snoory ,
    Why are you a Scientologist?

    obviously i haven’t done my research but as far as i can see you have a belief. is there anything like a bible for Scientology? that depicts these beliefs?

    In truth.
    Scientology is no more real than star trek.

    but no matter what people say Scientology IS a religion. in the same way Rastafarianism is a religion(and has more members).

    I think the main problem people have with Scientology is the fact it sucks people in. people outside Scientology can see its completely ridiculous that someone would want to waste their life away like that.

    It’s the pinnacle of distorted modern culture. considering ,at least, Christianity is for the greater good. (i don’t want to consider myself anything-ist noting should change your life but yourself.)

    i find it funny how you so strongly know your right andhave the extreme beliefs for Scientology , yet you struggle to make people see what you see on rlslog. if you truly were happy with Scientology you wouldn’t have to justify yourself so repeatedly.

  99. gasp
    October 21st, 2008 | 01:22

    not so Anonymous…..to get caught

  100. teach
    October 21st, 2008 | 01:51

    Noob, with a big heart… took one for the team! respect!
    self educated … high IQ.. curious.. internet freedom fighter!

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