Four Months Three Weeks and Two Days 2007 DVDRip XviD-RHD
A Romanian movie Four Months Three Weeks and Two Days with outstanding rating at IMDB has been released in a new dvdrip by (most likely non-scene) group RHD. The original name of this drama is “4 luni, 3 saptamani si 2 zile” and it can boast with a spectacular numbers: 1 nomination for Grammy, 10 film awards (including The best film of Cannes) and 3 other nominations. The audio of this 2 CD release is Romanian and there are no English subtitles so it’s not too useful but I believe someone will translate it pretty soon.
Otilia and Gabita share the same room in a student dormitory. They are colleagues at the University in this small town in Romania, during the last years of communism. Otilia rents a room in a cheap hotel. In the afternoon, they are going to meet a certain Mr. Bebe. Gabita is pregnant, abortion is illegal and neither of them have passed through something like this before. 4 months, 3 weeks & 2 days belongs to a larger project called: Tales from the Golden Age – a subjective history of communism in Romania told through its urban legends. The project’s aim is to talk about that period with no direct reference to communism but only through different stories focused on personal options in a time of misfortunes that people had to live like normal times.
Four.Months.Three.Weeks.and Two.Days.2007.DVDRip.XviD-RHD
2 CD, 1.4 GB, rhd-fmtwtd
108 min, 720×420, 1771kbps, mp3
IMDB (8.4), hp, nfo, torrent
Comments(160)
SICK!
Thanks
Shame, I would have liked to have seen this if subs were made available, seems interesting.
Post this till you have subs or English audio you moron.
Quote from the comments section of Newtorrents.info:
“CD2 is undersized (629 mb) and no subtitles included
Video Encoding quality is bad.I’m not complaining, because it’s free & all, but let’s hope a proper release comes around.”
May be a scene group will release PROPER DVDRip tomorrow. This movie deserves to be watched in better quality.
i had a x264 release of it. no subs and deleted, this im not downing.
crapy movie from a romanians POV. i’ve lived through those days and what they depict is quite far from the reality of those times. in reality things were worse than that…
Subtitles:
http://www.opensubtitles.com/en/search/imdbid-1032846/sublanguageid-all
Only took 3 seconds for me to find them.
viata bate filmul vrei sa zici
Bone has right!
proud to be romanian xD btw great film
I ll give a try to this one….it has something to say !
@9 Agatocles
Why someone would be proud to be Romanian?
I don’t even know where your country is located,
and i guess 99% of world population don’t either…
one of the best movies your sorry crusty ass is gonna get this year! Oscar winner 4 sure and a huge buzz in the US in the following months due to the abortion take. No doubt the en subs will arrive asap, since this is a great one, so grab it already.
And yeah, it’e even better then Halo 3!
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eng sub:
http://rapidshare.com/files/76560259/4.luni.3.saptamani.si.2.zile.2007.bykassarulu.en.srt
@ Agatocles and other gypsies
Your country is syphilitic and only exports cheap whores. Why be proud of living in the hellhole of Europe?
@DeathtoRomanians
You are probably very very stupid or your …… you know what, I don’t care what you are and I’m pretty sure you don’t know nothing about the world around you.
U s*ck more than I do ! U f**kin racist !
@9 Agatocles are you from the U.S. ? Just wondering.
I meant eitanois
proud to be romanian
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eitanois
December 17th, 2007 | 15:37
@9 Agatocles
“Why someone would be proud to be Romanian?
I don’t even know where your country is located,
and i guess 99% of world population don’t either…”
And with a comment like that, I think we all know where your country is located.
The 2 subtitle links here are for a 1cd movie. This is 2CD.
Oscar winner in March best foreign film for sure ! Golden Globe too
douchebagistan?
@11
A possible reason for not knowing where it is would be because you’re an idiot.
@14
work on your act. It will make you more likable to the likes of @11.
ENGLISH SUBTITLES for this version and the Proper iNT version: http://www.mediafire.com/?69zmjzdfwyo
They are cleaned up and verified by the iNT group.
Have fun watching some beautiful Romanian cinema !
Let’s just cool down and stop swearing. Every country has cheap whores and great people and everybody should pe proud with their country.
And for the 99% mentioned above, here it is: http://wikimapia.org/#lat=44.465151&lon=26.015625&z=5&l=0&m=a&v=2
Romania is hard to find on maps because in the rest of the world it is labeled as ‘World’s biggest Sh-thole’. So I can understand eitanois for not knowing where it is.
By the way, INDEPENDENCE FOR SHEKELYFOLD!!!
wHAT its jew hating now im definitely gonna watch…
joking…
for all you American idiots learning European geography through movies like Hostel, a piece of advice: leave your country music bars and relity TV shows for just a minute and go educate yourself. morons.
lol, just because some ppl don’t know where romania is, that should make me ashame? i don’t understand how can a man be ashemed about their origin, that would make them ashemd of being human.
I havent watched many romanian movies but I recommend a movie called “The death of Mr. Lazarescu”. It was nominated for oscar couple of years ago.
@ Florin
Sorry but there is no such thing as beautiful Romanian cinema. I watched ‘Second Hand’. So hyped up and the biggest pile of cr@p ever. ‘California Dreamin’ is a cheap ‘quirky’ movie that tries to imitate Kosturica but is pathetic. This one is just a commie bashing, abortion idealising snoozefest, talk, talk and more talk. So what that it got many awards? They were by Europeans that usually love these turgid small scale movies where nothing really happens.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy these types occasionally but they have to be on a more interesting subject and better written than this.
@ eitanois
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I wasn’t aware that being ignorant (not to say stupid) is something to be proud of
first watch the movie and after that comment it…
it’s a good movie, well made, “beatiful” backgrounds and colors; the only thing i don’t like is the hand-held camera
@Dave I know that for you this may be just another low budget movie but you’ll have to understand that something like that really happened.You know, not all of us were born free.
@DeathtoRomanians STFU (do u need explanation for that?)
“By the way, INDEPENDENCE FOR SHEKELYFOLD!!!” r u kidding? Tinutul Secuiesc will never be independent. Don’t make this Kosovo 2. And btw i’m hungarian.
I AM PROUD TO BE HUNGARIAN AND ROMANIAN. For US morons or just general morons who don’t know a country from our World just STFU. Don’t embarrass urself with ur own stupidity and lack of knowledge
Now back to topic. Watch thi movie. It’s really good but def. not for mainstream and blockbuster moviegoers. If u appreciate Cannes, diversity and european cinema in general this is a MUST SEE 4 u.
Hahhah, the proud citizens of the United Slaves of America poking fun at others on the subject of freedom – wait several more years and then think about it again
Me – I won’t set foot on US soil even if they pay me to do it. Oh wait, I already did that last year…
@29 Stil a bad ass u are…. are u italian or wtf…u want.Get lost with your porn if u dont like this movie
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One Point O was filmed in Romania (because they have problems with safety standards in western countries
), I can advise you to watch One Point O, very sugestive psycho movie
Haven’t seen this yet, maybe I’ll try when I’ll find 1CD release on free server (RnB/Mom/Ya/A/Xdrive)
to others – ignore people trying to do flamewar about Romania/Europe, they are not worth of typing on kbd
good movies about communism/real socialism (in OST block (maybe that’s why I’m fan of OST music
)) – Das Leben der Anderen, Good bye Lenin
greetings from Slovakia (country of cannibals, so please stay away UK/US citizens (UK especially) or we’ll eat ya!
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For the record, I am from the U.S. and I love Romania. And I knew someone from Romania a few years ago.
btw. I’m proud to be citizen of Earth, don’t care about countries, I don’t like borders and visas, it’s against nature, why they are not stopping migrating animals too? Have animals more rights than humans?
@NN guess what i’ve been in a HOSTEL in Bratislava (great city btw)…and I am still alive:) Maybe ’cause I’m not american:)
I thought she looked familiar! The actress in this, Anamaria Marinca, was also in “Sex Traffic”. She is a great actress.
USA – The Nation of Analphabets .
Analphabetic population – 40mln.
Hooray for them !
@ eitanois if you don’t know where Romania is you moron … I’m very suprised that you can write O_o.
Proud to be Romanian right here and would rather be Romanian than American any day. I live in Canada and not ashamed of telling anyone where I’m from. Considering that if you say you’re American outside American chances are you’re gonna get shot anyways.
So, don’t be hating on a culture rich with awesome traditions (especially Christmas traditions), amazing food, and beautiful women, just because your American Christmas consists of getting the best deals on Boxing Day, because your Christmas food consists of McDonalds and because your women are fat and ugly.
Anyways, the movie is great. This and California Dreamin’ have helped Romanian Cinema gain some respect, especially in this world where the Hollywood factory is pulling out mostly garbage.
Proud to be Romanian … not sow proud living in Romania…Love the Romanian landscapes…f*ck the stupid people around here…Nice film!
For those that don’t know where Romania is…..just take a look at yourself….saying that here only prooves u are stupid, don’t have knowledge….and btw…maybe we’re full of hoes but our hoes are skinny while in usa big fatty girls
DeathtoRomanians : in 1914 we Romanians we put our flag on parliament house in budapest so f**k you
@ DeathtoRomanians … Ba’ pa’ ma-tii !
That means that our country is not anything like you said ( I don’t know if this apply to your mom though…. ).Actually, I can say that wherever you live, your town, your country is full of drugs, whores and even worst, you.
Good movie
sample
http://rapidshare.com/files/77238138/rhd-fmtwtd-sample.avi
come on, romanian? i will not watch this movie, indeed
great movie and great actors! another great european film of this year!
oh..and romanians please stop swearing hungarians and hungarians swearing romanians and other people swearing romanians:)) ’cause it’s very unhealthy for mankind.
To all europe haters and USA haters:STOP.
Watch the movie,and then comment on the movie.
So what if Romania is a S***hole?So is most of the world(except those that have legalized Marihuana).Quit pointing fingers and just enjoy the fine women/men in your contry,even if they are fat,ugly and stupid(every country has them)
@ LST
I’m living in Galati at the moment, been here for a year so I am qualified to know what a sh-thole Romania is! The people are fine, but the country is not!Precisely the government of thieves and scum and the corruption at every level where you have to bribe everyone for anything.
DeathtoRomanians said “The people are fine”whis this I do not agree,with everything else I do.
EDUCATION LESSON HERE
Listen people – Some people might not know where Romania is but I guarentee everyone has heard of Transylvania – And that is located in Romanin – I have visited Romania before – And althugh it is still recovering from it’s long and sad communist period which ended it in 1989 it is really a beautiful place.
I assume this movie takes place during the time right before Nicolae Ceauşescu reign ended where he forced women to have babies and live in slums – When he made abortion illegal and the orphanages were overcrowded – Children were living in sewers and the country refused to reconized the existance of their AIDs epidemic – He also drained the national economy building the world’s second largest build behind the Pentagon “Palace of the Parliament” (which is very beautiful, ive been inside it)
His own guards turned against him on Christmas Day 1989 and they held a trial and then put him to death. It was broadcast on TV and the country celebrated. I think to this day still every year on TV they rebroadcast his execution on Christmas Day.
So when we read in the original post…
“The project’s aim is to talk about that period with no direct reference to communism but only through different stories focused on personal options in a time of misfortunes that people had to live like normal times”
I think it would make watching this movie a little more thought provoking to know what I just typed above since most people do not have a clue about the history of Romania.
Any Rapidshare links? Thanx.
@ But that doesn’t make the people like that. Some scumbags don’t make a country. Even though I must agree with the fact that Romania is waaaaaaaaay far from a so called “civilization” I must say every time I leave my home, which is in ROMANIA, I can’t wait to go back.
So…even though you’re Romanian or some other “species” don’t talk like that just because thing look this way. If you’re smart enough,watch behind the glass mate, there’s so much out there that’ real and human, unlike other so called great countries like the US.
And….do you REAAAAAALLY think that in the U.S …or U.K … governants are doing good things to their people? /:) YEAH RIGHT…
Another new lesson about Romania:
Some of the romanian youth believes that it was better when Ceausescu ruled.
Most are proud of their own stupidity(it’s not a metaphore,it’s the truth)
Recent national tests were catastrophic failure.School education is at it’s lowest.
Even though our economy has the potential to grow,the idiots in power are not taking advantage of it.
We have brilliant doctors bot horrific hospitals.
As a matter of fact it is said that the second spoken language in Microsoft is Romanian meaning Romania cannot give proper paid jobs to it’s people.(80% of the salary is too f*ing much).
Bribary is something normal.If you don’t bribe someone he probably will try to hurt you(Ex:At the national tests,there were schools that did not bribe the inspectors and the result was that 12% of the pupils passed the tests)
And many,many more reasons that make Romania a deplorable country.Blame the politicians,blame the people,blame yourself but don’t hate some1 simply because he says the truth as he sees it.!
@61: This applies to any post-communist country anyways… The big thing is that, even almost 20 years after communism ended, theres still a lot of people who think that life was better in the old days. Seems like half the population is still trying to live like they used to before revolution, which sucks, cos they all are easy to be fooled by various leftist populists and another bastards, offering easy but non-working solutions. Guess that this is the biggest difference between east and west.
720p out yet?
rapidshare any1?
here other release:
http://rapidshare.com/files/70918033/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part01.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70918771/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part02.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70919378/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part03.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70920024/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part04.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70920625/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part05.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70921183/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part06.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70921843/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part07.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70922539/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part08.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70923089/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part09.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70923690/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part10.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70924244/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part11.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70924795/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part12.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70925353/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part13.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70925945/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part14.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/70926448/4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.DVDRip.x264.AAC-JAVLiU.part15.rar
forget to say, that pwd for unrar is ‘www.divxturka.net’
thnx dude
@ johns
Well said, and I have to say that my nick I used is just to wind up all those Romanian ‘patriots’ that come here gloating how great Romania is while here in Galati all I see is everyone aping the US and complaining how the country sucks and how they can’t wait to flee! I think ‘Death to this Romanian mentality’ most of all, not to the peasants themselves. Though seeing all those rich scum that bribed their way to wealth or through ex-securitate etc. connections and who are driving round their Cadillacs and Hummers round here, I say Death to them!
@jb
Well I’m from Poland and it was a much milder form of communism that was actually quite liberal and not that bad.Don’t believe the propaganda.We emigrated legally in 1982 at a time when it was said that noone could legally leave etc cause of martial law, repression etc. This is all bull.Biggest problem in Poland was having to send much of the goods to the USSR as they were really running the nation into the ground, thus leaving shortages in Polish shop. There was much good under communism that they unnecessarily got rid of along with the bad, Poland and other Eastern European countries were fooled by the Western thieves that wanted to buy up and strip the nations of all they had for a few pennies and the corrupt leaders like the ‘hero’ Walesa and Havel etc. let them. Eastern europe should have turned into socialist democracies like the Nordic countries, not throw everyone to the wolves where those in power monopolised everything.
Any chance for a real DVD-R version? This is sourced from a DVD, apparently, so why not make the real thing available?
Many kisses to Romania from Greece! Your movie ROCKS!!! Who wants American blockbuster every day. Come on, a little change at al last!
WOW, this movie and the big number of comments just show how many romanians posts around here, a lot (and that’s cool because I’m one too).
The thing is Americans are not that bad, I know a lot of them and they never made fun of Romania so that one guy that posts stupid things around here is probably very very sick and should be left alone…………..to DIE.
@68
The biggest thing about socialist democracies is that they either have a big, specific source of income (such as gas/oil in norway), or they are simply eating through the savings of previous, non-socialist governments. Our problem is, that we in the post-commie parts of europe simply have neither any savings from before nor any external source of wealth. Talking generally, only thing that could rise the national income is (at least by now) cheap labor…
About the old regimes, im not quite sure about how was it in poland, but here in czech republic, there was only a little chance to get anywhere for most of people. My parents were decided *antiregime* and they even couldnt travel to another east-block countries. As you said, there were shortages of everything, only culture was the one approved by the party(so we did not have led zepp, we had dean reed instead:), life basically sucked if you though just a bit differently than those in power. Communism never brought anything good to my country…
Of course, there is a lot of countries that underwent bad transition and ended up unstable and possibly worst off than before (take Russia…), but i still kinda think that this is caused by the commie leftovers deep in peoples minds
The Invasion (2007) dvdrip is out!!!
The Invasion 2007 dvd (4.35G)
IMDB:
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greetings pretpick
@jb
True to an extent but look at Finland and Sweden for example, not much natural resources and the boom times for these countries continue with socialist benefits. I can see that you inherited your parents’ anti-communist ideals, but you have to see that the ideal of communism is actually very noble and workable if you shake off the western propaganda that it isnt. It only isn’t workable if you follow the market economy model, which clearly you wouldn’t. It wouldn’t conform to those rules.
As for not being able to say and do anything, at least in Poland according to my grandparents, they said that they never were restricted in what they could do or say, so long as you didnt really agitate for overthrowing the government(but then such a thing is banned in the west if it goes too far too). Their biggest gripe was the difficulty in spending money they earnt. Everyone had a lot of money, but there was bugger all to buy in shops because of the corruption at the top and the export to Soviet Union. Corrupt officials would hoard the goods meant for consumer shops and sell them themselves on black market for profit. I believe that it was the unnacountability of the rulers that really screwed up any chance communism may have had, the way it was modelled on Stalinist lines(meaning the party could not be questioned or infallible) meant that those at top were corrupted easily and really didn’tgive a toss bout communism or creating a better society. It was just to line their pockets.
subtitles for 2cd…….exist?
To Chris Hartgraves: Transylvania was broken up between Romania and Hungary by the imperialist victors after WWI. It had previously been part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, in whose army my grandpa served before coming to the States. Later, the Jews were turned over to the Nazis. There was nothing left of my family there.
Please don’t confuse Stalinism, especially the demented form practiced in Romania, with communism; i.e., learn some history.
4.Luni.3.Saptamani.si.2.Zile.Proper.DVDRip.XviD-iNT
for this!!!please i want watch
Its not true that every former communist state is now totally corrupted. There are expection to that rule for example Estonia, Slovenia, DDR etc. In Croatia things also worked well in general.
megashares links plz
I’m an idiot…
@ Grandson Of Transylvania
‘Please don’t confuse Stalinism, especially the demented form practiced in Romania, with communism’ Hear, Hear!
Here’s a tip for you Europeans:
The STUPIDEST Americans are also usually the LOUDEST Americans.
So, if you have some douchebag slagging off other countries on the internet, or on TV, or wherever – don’t think he represents most Americans. He represents the biggest idiots among Americans.
I’m sick of feeling embarrassed because of the stupidity of my neighbors. I truly wish they’d just shut up.
@ 79
LOL a retarted Romanian patriot trying to imitate me..how clever!
I’m the biggest idiot
this movie is nominated for Oscar
Is he girl in the snap the same girl that was in Day Night Day Night ?
This movie is good but the rip is a joke! The second CD has only 629 MB !! Who makes 1 pass encodes today? And why make the audio 192 kbps mp3? Why not keep the 192 kbps AC3 track? Who is “RHD” ? Why post this crappy rip on RLSLOG ?! I want some answers, please !
@ 83
Ahh he’s back! Poor little Gheorghe Wankerescu should be whacking off in bed to Monica Columbeanu, that skeleton being his type:)
True
Capitalism and Communism are both failed systems. We need to get over the idea of economic determinism and create a new system based on something other than capital.
Im from Finland so thanks to our grandfathers we didnt have experience communism. We saw it very close anyway happening to our neighbours.
People who judge other countries are ignorant and stupid. There are good and bad sides in every country. Each person should be judgeg only by his/hers own deeds not by some stereotypes.
Romanians for example are not slavic people but they are same ethnic “root” that the French people are. Nobody would call France a country with no civilization. Maybe some neo-cons but thats a different story.
Anyway will watch that movie and I personally have only good experiences from Romanian people, I know one artist family from there. Maybe travel there someday also.
There are also ways to live between total capitalism and socialism. Its called socialdemocracy and wellfare state.
@81. American
“The STUPIDEST Americans are also usually the LOUDEST Americans.”
On the other hand, I am emberrassed by the people who generalize people Americans like that. Also people who are saying that people from the US should know all the countries from Europe, I ask them: Do you know all the states from the US? I think not. Do you know all Asian, Middle eastern OR Latin America countries? I’m very sure you do not.
So please stop judging people, especially when you’re not any better yourself. You’re only making a fool out of yourself.
Thanks.
Ok I;am romanian but this movie sux.
Ironically it’s “Most Stupid”, not “Stupidest”.
To think you are from the US, with english as the main language, feeling emberassed for your fellow countrymen, spelling a form of stupid wrong. (Nothing personal).
@ Larry
It wasn’t thanks to your grandfathers that Finland didn’t become communist, but Cold War diplomacy. Your grandfathers’ were defeated by the Soviets: marginally in 1939 and decisively in 1944, so particularly after 1944, Stalin could have imposed anything he wanted on Finland.
megashares links please. thanks in advance
We might make bad films but at least Romanians are good at killing Italians and theft!
@DeathtoRomanians
I guess we wont agree on this one… Basic idea of communism surely sounds nice, but it was proven not to work. Ideas of system based on something else than market and money have always been wrong, simply because it is in human nature to always demand more. Democratic capitalism is the only working system, because it puts these demand of each person into market, making the people try harder to get more. By that, the whole society moves forwards…
Dear iNCQRiT:
stupidest
1. Superlative of stupid; most stupid.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stupidest
Languages simplify over time, and this superlative form of ’stupid’ is now commonly accepted. But, if we’re going to be petty, you should note that it’s spelled “embarrassed.” (Nothing personal).
And I know my geography pretty well, as I believe most Americans (and people of other nationalities) should.
The point I’m making is (for those dumb enough to judge an entire culture by the few examples they come into contact with) one is far more likely to encounter the stupidest American – because they’re the loudest, and the most likely to voice their opinons in public forums. I hope that the majority of people are aware that Americans aren’t some monolithic monoculture, but I’m also aware the majority of people from ANY culture are going to be idiots. Stupidity is the way of the world.
Frankly, I’d be in favor of doing away with nationality entirely. But, if you have very little to be proud of personally, you’re going to be much quicker to loudly proclaim the superiority of your country/religion/ideology.
@ jb
Depends what you believe is human nature. It’s just capitalists, ruling elites, along with organised religion that tries to suggest that human nature is greed, evil, getting ahead at the expense of others etc, for it justifies and legitimises their own existance and continuation of their own agendas. I don’t believe that that is man’s inherent nature as it certainly isn’t mine and I’ve been bombarded with capitalism and protestant work ethic propaganda from school and society since the age of 6 and I certainly haven’t had any desire to advance myself at the expense of my fellow man.
Society doesn’t move forward through capitalism as capitalism promotes instant gratification for its adherents but when you see one person with a billion dollars and many more with 20 000 a year from a hard working job even with a degree etc. it fails to deliver for the vast majority the same benefits. Capitalism could only flourish by linking it to the protestant work ethic, which encourages abstinence from gratification and hard work for which the person is rewarded in some unspecified time in the future. Capitalism thus is a fraud, an unstable entitiy that only exists by perpetuating certain myths that benefit it and which uses various western ideologies to prop up its inherent unfairness.
Finally, the laws of finite resources contradict capitalism, as capitalism envisions eternal growth in a finite world, a pure fallacy. Eventually the resources will run out and the markets for goods will be saturated, and then what?
@ jb
On a lighter note, we Polish joke that Czechs are money hungry, so I understand your love for Capitalism, seing how your parents probably indoctrinated you how great it is in west with Denim jeans, Coca Cola and a Cadillac for every family!:))
Only Communism has failed. Has been tried for decades on different countries and cultures on half the globe with the same result: bankruptcy. Capital is essential on any type of system, even on communism the state counts it’s money. The only system that has proved to work is the combination capitalism + democracy + literate electors. China is a special exception. It works without literate electors and without real democracy but the ruling class (the “communist” party) has the size of some big countries, his members are literate and vote in real elections (between themselves).
Now about the movie, from IMDB:
“Usually, movies are about entertainment, or about art, or simply they just have something to say. This is exactly the case with “4,3,2″. Going beyond exceptional cinematography, this is a movie about serious problems, in a serious approach. It’s about those extraordinary events in our every day life. The cast and all the effort put into making it add up to the success of presenting a story about real life with fictional means. It’s not a movie about women, nor about men, it doesn’t concern only women, or only men, it’s about struggle and sacrifice, without being pathetic or exaggerated. You, or me, or the one next to you, could face the same problems and we each deal with them in our own way. The winning point of the film is that it’s not judgemental about these choices, but only alarming, or purely descriptive.
Great acting, great directing, great filming, great writing and a great story make this film well worthy of those Palmes D’Or. It’s a great achievement for cinematography in general, not only the Romanian one in particular. But for a more detailed perspective, just go see the movie!”
Breaking the 101.
Awesome! My stepmom asked for this movie about 2 months ago when no version was pre’d but now I can get it! My stepmom is Romanian so she doens’t have a problem however I think it sounds interesting and my dad doesn’t know Romanian, so I’ll wait for a English subbed copy.
Capitalism will be flushed down the toilet of history. It is a failed ideology. What you call capitalism is not even capitalism. Read books if you can to see what capitalism really is. Tarrifs, State intervention to bail out bankrupt businesses etc, is not capitalism.
All this arguing solves nothing. Please, everyone, take a deep breath, relax, sit back and continue playing Halo 3.
It’s awesome.
in june 2008 romania will prevent two of three football powers from reaching the quarterfinals of the european championships
i’m betting france & the netherlands ;
and then maybe in the semifinals the romanian team will also eliminate the italians
wow i came on here to read about the movie and read some infantile trolling from ‘deathtoromania’….. I bet he is on his computer 10 hours a day from his sh!thole in poland.. lol at his hatred
I hope our polish friend will emigrate to Cuba or North Korea and live the communist dream. For the others to see how miserable are people in the “dieing” capitalist system please download the Shakira Miami concert:
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3930389/Shakira.Oral.Fixation.Tour.DVDRip.Xvid.AC3.%5BBajand%5D.3930389.TPB.torrent
what an odd name.
@11 yeah maybe u right.. but I bet 99% of the population knows who ur mother is;) lol
Does anyone have problem with the torrent link?
@75
Listen – So what you are saying is I got everything I wrote about my post about romania except for the fact about Translyvania???
I have been to Romania – I stayed in Bucharest in the Astoria hotel – I am American – It has a beautiful population – In all my travels around the world, Romania is by far my favorite
My post was only posted to educate people who download this movie and watch it to understand the culture and situation of the country at the time this movie is taking place… Since the movie does not address that – Sorry for trying to at least educate those people here who are saying bad things about Romania.
I’m proud to be romanian and here are some of the reasons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzcuBbztn-0
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=5314404
What a pile of crap for just one idiot …
Obviously ” DeathtoRomanians” is just one of those losers that has nothing to do .. just points fingers . Probably he does nt know to point Ro. on the map . God forgive him …
Btw .. today a Canadian asked me if Transylvania is in the USA …
What s going on with this world ?????????????
Proud To Be Romanian!
@American
Oops, you are right. In my opinion it just sounds wierd.
In my opinion you can be proud of your country, as long as you recognize that it’s not the people who are better, just other features (like maybe government, cultural interests, healthcare system, art, etc).
I have the most beautifull country in the world, guess were am i living?
Yes, you are right i’m from Romania!!!
I was 16 years old (10-th grade) when communism fall down here in Romania after the very first revolution that was transmitted LIVE on TV all around the world. I remember Ceausescu (the communist ruler) being summarily judged and executed in a similar way many Romanians were judged and executed during it’s rule. Immediately after that the capital punishment was abolished and liberty in all it’s forms proclaimed. One of the liberty’s gained on December ‘89 was womens liberty to choose when and if they want to have a baby. I choose what to do with my own body, women should choose what to do with theirs too. About life in today Romania I would say that is so so much better than under communism, I don’t regret a thing and people I know don’t either. It was hard during the first 10 years of transition due to communist left overs and primitive accumulation of capital but for the past 7-8 years we are experiencing strong economic growth regardless who is in power (6-7%/year every single year), unemployment is at it’s lowest (you must have no skill at all or no will to work to be unemployed), incomes are higher, inflation is lower, properties gain value, credits are more accessible, the young men and women are better educated and eager to succeed, the conditions are that the momentum is gonna continue for the years to come. As a result the middle class grows larger and larger each year, the prove is the number of quality cars that literally flood the streets or the higher number of people that make their holidays outside each year. Of course there are some people complaining that life is hard but I bet they will complain also in 10 years time when life will be even better than is today, so… If you study and work the way you should (harder every single day) you can really make your dreams alive in today Romania. I feel lucky that I was born in this place at this time because I was able to witness such a radical transformation in such a short period of time. Other countries look boring to me in comparison but I respect everyone’s feeling that his country is the best. It’s a good thing to care about your country as long as you don’t exaggerate whit it.
search and watch this movie online now!
http://www.movietorpedo.com/index.html
Short flash movie about Romania on MySpace:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=5314404
Molto bono questo film.
This movie is great. I wish more movies made outside Hollywood would be present here.
@ seethis: we have a very good football team. I would be surprised if we couldn’t win the European Championship next year but if we can’t then better Romania has it than Germany or France
)
out of 100 and something comments all ive read is a few about the movie and the rest ive read have been all about romania if you have nothing better to do with your time than slag a nation of people off when all your supposed to be doing is commenting on a movie it shows what sad times we live in, and shame to you releaselog for allowing it.
@ Leviathon that’s so true
have a good christmas dragos and all the best for the new year,no people of any nation deserve to be name called, at the end of the day its the governments that ruin a nation not the people.
This thread is a classic insofar as it typifies what is so commonly expressed all over the web with such tremendous antagonism. We harbor such endless animosities toward one another through upbringing, circumstance and indoctrination. Yet no country, no religion, no ethnicity or race, no culture, no political ideology and no set of doctrines or beliefs may ever lay claim to a definitive and final path for humanity. None of us are perfect in our attempts to struggle forward by what we perceive as being right over wrong.
Try, now and then, to embrace a larger picture, one where we are all connected, for we are precisely that: connected to each other biologically, to the earth, chemically, and to the universe, atomically. If we truly wish to live in a world of peace and harmony then we should simply rejoice in the diversity of man instead of standing in fear of it as others have sought fit to inculcate upon us. Seek a greater truth and do so by listening to your heart rather than a dented ego.
for the attention of comment 127.nicely put my friend nicely worded.
“…at the end of the day its the governments that ruin a nation not the people..”
amen, that’s the truth.
I don’t know what Halo 3 is (last game I played was Pac Man some years ago) but I wish that someone would help that polish communist swim from Florida to Cuba to realize his dream. If someone offers to take it from Miami I can pack him from here and send it to you (against his will if necessary).
On a more serious note the left party’s are on rapid decline here on Romania, especially among youth people. We are governed by the liberals and for the next elections the main battle will be with another right wing party, that’s why that polish guy is so frustrated.
my country is better any other country. anything not from my country or my people is inferior to anything in my country. our god is the only god, our military the mightiest and our women the are most beautiful. anything ever invented was invented here. without my country, man would still live in caves. opposition is futile and failure inevitable.
ALL HAIL MY COUNTRY!
My neighborhood is better than your neighborhood. My home is bigger than your home. My car is faster than your car. Competition helps us avoid stagnation and recession.
eitanois…u dont know where Romania is located…that’s becoz u dont have enough informations about the world. and if u dont know about Romania, that doesnt mean, Romania is a not signifiant country. u can see that we have smart persons like this who made this movie. and btw…here, Romanian students learn about every country on this planet…that’s a difference between us and the rest
before opening the mouth, just think…;)
now about the movie…this is a great movie.i’m proud to have such people in my country
we wait for new movies as good or better than this one
blaah still no megashare links…just some stupid debate
@IgnoranceIsBliss & @Firefox 3 beta:
it’s not that romania is any better than any other coutries. all hte countrues have good parts and bad parts. the ideea from where all this started is that this film is bad becaus it is romanian. maybe this is a bad movie, but is a bad movie becaus is just bad, not becaus it is romanian. nobody said romania is better than other countries. romania is just as good as all the countries.
i’m proud to be a romanian
I’m sure not many know were Romania or Mongolia or Montana or Vancouver is on the map but everybody knows were Jamaica is, right man?
i found links for it here http://www.homerzmoviez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=370#post370
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Impressive movie. Hope it will win Best Foreign Film at Oscars. Fully deserves it!
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Im british…ive visited romania on many occasions. Theres this major misconception by people that romanians are “gypsies”. Gypsies ARE NOT romanian. they speak their own dialect. Its gypsies that causes a lot of problems for romanians,hungarians and many other countries. They live their own life by their own rules. And settle where they like.
DONT beleive in what you read in the media….EDUCATE yourself. Romania is a beautiful country with incredibly devoted people. hard working people & people who would welcome you to their home and treat you with upmost respect. It was a gypsy that murdered someone in italy. Somehow this individual obtained a romanian ID card. Its a stigma on many eastern european countries that needs to be sorted out.
BTW they dont celebrate the overthrow of government on christmas day and show his execution on tv. They celebrate christmas and look to the future. Which is something you neanderthals need to think about.
I’m trying (for more than 24 h. now) to find a descent sub. to that movie. I have been in all the places Bram Cohen could name and think of…Nope, Niet, Nada…
Anyone?
Please don’t link me to the GRADOS version (a real mess! a real pollution), nor to the “PROPER” one (a shame!). Aren’t they out there Romanians who know how to synchronize properly?
Learn history ! The true history, not this fake from Budapesta ! This is Romania!
“Proud to be a Romanian”
This just shows that if you have absolutely nothing, people always find some pathetic thing to be proud off.
Remember, all World Wars started because of ignorant nationalism. So I guess the next Hitler will come from East Europe. Wow, that’s really something to be proud off.
All this useless racist battle is that makes this world such a bad place.
Why you people continue to care about country\language or religion ?
Why is it so important ?
You continnue to think and live in the same mistake as our predecessors.
Instead of fighting you should concentrate about your everyday work. Try to do positive things each day, help and care about others and mostly, try to outdo yourself !
We destroy Afghan mud houses using bombs that costs 2 mil. US$ each. Why we do it? Because we can!
Soo.. pro life or pro choice?
Best movie at Cannes, European movie of the year, any chance of an Oscar?
“We destroy Afghan mud houses using bombs that costs 2 mil. US$ each. Why we do it? Because we can!”
that really is something to be proud of …
my pride of being romanian, is not about nationalism, and not about romania, or romanians being better than other coutries … is about the general image that world have about us, due to diffrent negative facts. some of our compatriots abroad are ashamed or even fear to admit they are romanians. somehow like being arabian origin … if you are from an arabian country everybody sees you as a possible terrorist. if you are romanian everybody sees you as a gipsy, possible killer, or thief. this is not right. i also know the good parts of my country and my compatriots, and that mekes me proud of being romanian.
For anyone still interested, I uploaded a version of the subtitles synced to the joined, 1CD version of the RHD rip. In my case, I prefer watching films on a single DVD, regardless of quality loss. Now, this is my first time posting subs so please bear with me…so far I see the only rating on subscene is 1/10, but even if it’s far from perfect, I did it mainly so that I could enjoy my copy more. Others benefiting from it is merely a bonus.
Here’s the link (feel free to split and use it for your 2CD versions somehow): http://subscene.com/119015/subtitle.aspx
thanks shakezula!
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Is it just me? or is the aspect ratio screwed? it looks vertically compressed to me. Maybe it’s just me. Can anyone confirm?
What happen’s to you people,you don,t have heart,legs,arms
Everybody are the same,we born and die shame to the racist people…
i love you all i am romanian and i love my country thank’s
so match to talk about the romanian movie an all the rest ex comunist countrys.but one thing you all have to be shame off USA is that you never land on the moon and it would never be.so keep on dreaming and be as you are ignorant about the rest of the world.this is for those who realy knows who there are.and for the rest of 10 percent of USA,MY MESSIG IS EDUKATE YOURE CITIZENS BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE.ONLY THE TRUTH.
VIVA EUROPEAN CINEMA ,VIVA ASIAN CINEMA.DEATH TO HOLLYWOOD.I STEEL LIKE E.T.
@21: hahahahahahahaha, you totally pwnd No9 hahahaha. He probably doesn’t even understand it but that was, indeed, a good one…
And @ all those haters… Jeez… Romania is a country just like the U.S. (in my opinion much better) or whereever you’re from. At least Romania didn’t start a war for no reason or elected a complete idiot as their president. And, I’m pretty sure that about 75% of the people in Europe know pretty well where Romania is. Many Americans don’t even know that Europe is a continent, not a country and they’re not sure whether France is a country or not.
So don’t hate on Romanians. They are just as smart as you, probably even smarter… And being proud of one’s nationality isn’t a bad thing… Even if you’re Romanian… I mean, look at Americans… that is by far the most patriotic (if you know even know what that word means) country I have ever seen in my life. Singing the national anthem all over the place.. The Pledge of Allegiance every morning in school while standing towards the flag…
Well, actually I just wanted to say how funny the comment of 21 was but I kinda ended up saying a little more… I’m not hating on Americans… I just know how they think about certain things and I know that they don’t know a whole lot about the world around them except their own country.
Peace
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thanks for all the help
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