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“Crysis makes me sick”

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I’m guessing this title will attract quite a few gamers. It is the direct translation from the title of a swedish article I will be translating into english here today. This is an interesting article written by Andreas Dimestam at SweClockers.com concerning the relationship between the Gaming and Hardware markets. I have done the translation as best I can but if anyone notices a mistake, please make a note of it in the comments! ;)

Around 3 years ago Far Cry was launched by the same developers behind Crysis: Germany based Crytek. The Game was an average FPS that didn’t bring anything new to the genre, but was still a pleasant game, playable at least one time. Back then just like now, graphics were at the center of things.

Far Cry had beautiful environments that few computers at the time could handle. Hardware websites and enthusiasts quickly made Far Cry a benchmark standard for all types of hardware. A little later however, something happened which became the beginning of this whole story. AMD launched their 64-bit processor Athlon 64 and were hunting for sales arguments.

Due to the fact that AMD were the first to create 64-bit processors in regular home PC’s, there was almost no software that supported this new technology. This made it difficult for AMD to convince the consumers of the advantages of more “bits in the processor”. AMD was simply forced to convince developers to use the new technology, and one of the goals of this campaign was a 64-bit version of Far Cry.

Apparently AMD managed to “convince” Crytek. About the same time that Microsoft released their 64-bit version of Windows XP a patch popped up on AMD’s website promising gold to those with the courage to buy a new processor and upgrade their operating system. The advantages of “more bits in the processor” was demonstrated with snapshots showing more badass explosions and more detailed textures. Isn’t 64-bit wonderful?

Far Cry differences

For those of us with our feet on the ground, these arguments were not as convincing. 64-bit in fact has nothing to do with bigger textures. To be able to adress more memory and have access to wider registers can make it easier to handle large sums of data, but at the time no personal computer was even close to breaking the 32-bit barrier. Cut short, this PR scam had nothing to do with “more bits in the processor”.

Back to present day and the launch of the Crysis Demo. Just like last time an enormous amount of hype was built up, largely about the astounding graphics. By using Microsofts latest graphics standard Directx 10, which is only available in Windows Vista, the developers have been able to push the boundaries of what is possible with todays hardware. That is the official version at least.

The truth is the true purpose of Directx 10 is to make developing easier by cleaning up registers and supplying new useful functions. This however is nothing the consumer notices, and therefore Microsoft must point out Directx 10’s “graphical improvements” in order to convince gamers to upgrade to Windows Vista. In reality DX10 does not mean drastically improved visual effects, at least not with todays graphics cards. There is a certain repetition of history to be seen here, right?

And then a few days after the Crysis demo launched the bad news was announced. When using Directx 9 you can’t run the game at “very high” settings, which drastically improves the visual experience from lower settings. A member at Crysis-online poked around a bit with the demo files and found a way to get almost exactly the same visual quality with Directx 9. This meant that the developers (Crytek) had purposefully worsened the Directx 9 setting to make Microsofts new technology appear superior. Apparently Crytek dosen’t mind lying to their customers.

This is not all. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli was interviewed a while back by Shacknews and talked about how beneficial multi-core processors would be for the game. Finally those who had spent big bucks on quad-cores would earn their increased perfomance.

“Multi-core will be beneficial in the experience, particularly in faster but also smoother framerates. [...] We recommend quad core over higher clock.”

Quad core was the advice Crytek had to give to hopeful gamers saving money for upgrades. What was the reality again? The reality is that four cores gives zero, I repeat, ZERO perfomance increase in Crysis. And thats not all, because once again the 64-bit question has to be adressed. Cevat Yerli was also interviewed by Gamespot among others praising “more bits in the processor”:

“I would recommend gamers run 64-bit only under very high configurations.”

Cervat Yerli

Better Performance at higher graphics settings? This was not the reality. The truth is that 64-bit improves NOTHING in Crysis!

This is of course the demo version we are talking about, but everything points toward the full version of the game functioning the same. Is this the kind of behaviour us enthusiasts and gamers will have to live with in the future? Game developers being a part of the marketing of new technology and hardware, no longer concentrating on delivering the best possible product but convincing consumers to open their wallets and unnecessarily upgrading their systems? I assume money has exchanged hands more than once behind the scenes, and who the suspects are need not even be mentioned. As a true gamer and hardware enthusias i declare that Crysis makes me sick.

Source: SweClockers


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  1. Limes
    November 21st, 2007 | 04:35

    Take note of the ridiculous dev cycle too. 4 years ? . I have little doubt this game was complete long before it’s release.

    They choked this chicken for all it’s worth… i was angry about this last year. I have seen 3 product cycles come and go, since i built this PC, for games such as “Crysis” 4 bloody years ago!…… and now i am still paying off a rig, that cannot even bloody play the thing at any wow-factor settings

  2. Col Brooks
    November 21st, 2007 | 04:52

    I didn’t see any frames improvement from 64 to 32 but I did definitely notice the game ran alot smoother at the low frame rates I get.

    I think COD 4 shoulf take any game of the year awards because not only is it great SP and MP but its playable at decent frames and looks fantastic

  3. mand1as
    November 21st, 2007 | 07:27

    my computer is 4 years old:

    - Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz
    - 1Gb ram
    - Ati Radeon 9800

    since it is Agp based if i wanna buy a new fast Pci Graphics card i need a whole new system,

    so 3 weeks ago i spent 170 euros on Radeon X1950 Pro,
    the fastest Agp card around,

    every game including Crysis runs exceptionaly with their graphics in their full glory,

    So my point is that
    i gave breath in a 4 year old system with just 170 euros so i still can be able to experience all the high-end gaming of today without whining.

    By the way Crysis is the best graphics game ive experienced so far keeping in mind that the high res pics & video shown all over the web dont differ so much from what i ve played.
    So i dont mind playing the game in direct X 9c.

    In fact i wish every other game released in the forthcoming months can match the same graphics quality i experienced with my specs and just direct X 9c.

    Ps. Every power user knows that Vista are the equivalent to lame WinMe, so nobodys gonna install them till the next Ms operating system launch.

    Nevertheless if some of you bother so much go buy a console.

  4. mand1as
    November 21st, 2007 | 07:47

    Also keep in mind that Crysis (nomatter how crap gameplay some of you think may it has) puts a step forward the standard in gaphics quality in all the upcoming games of all genres.

    The video games genre+industry is pushing itself more & more to life-like physics & graphics,

    so developers goal is multiple
    apart from making a kick-ass game, sometimes they also want to take advantage the top hardware available in the market.
    Thats why all pc games have Optionable Scalable Graphics Setup anyway.

  5. blob
    November 21st, 2007 | 08:28

    Crysis makes me sick. Well don’t eat it then.

    I liked the first 65% of this game but when I entered the core it went down hill, had to go back to dx9 to get frames up on a 8800gtx witch I lov all other game are butter on this card.
    The shaders are lovely in dx10 but the frames suck.

    Im still glad I bought it despite the glitches dx10 on very high looks lovely but it is a slideshow.

  6. harryb
    November 21st, 2007 | 10:56

    beyond the single player of this game (which was a phenomenal letdown), the multi player is absolutely ruined by countless bugs and a horribly “optimized” net code. hopefully the patch will fix most of them but i really doubt it, especially given EA’s outstanding support in the past…

  7. Rekrul
    November 21st, 2007 | 10:59

    @48 BlackPlastic,

    The point of DirectX10 is to try and force people to upgrade to Vista. Sure, it might have some minor improvements and bug fixes, but its real purpose is to be a carrot that MS can dangle in front of gamers and say “See, you NEED Vista to play all the latest games!” There’s no reason DX10 couldn’t have been written for XP. In fact, I was told that at least one group had hacked it to let you install it under XP.

  8. TupaC
    November 21st, 2007 | 11:42

    Crysis it’s just a bussines.

    And make me sick too.

  9. Moddy
    November 21st, 2007 | 11:44

    This is a reply to Yappi, whos comment is 8th from the top. Yappi dude dont be offended by what i have to say to you but its something u must know.
    You said “It does not stand up graphically on dx9 or 10 to the original screenshots and movies released by crytek, in fact they PROMISED at the time that the game would look like those screens and vids, but now it just looks blahh.”
    Are you alright? Are you suffering from some illness? Are you having eyesight problems? LOLLLLLLL. I can understand that for some people Crysis makes them feel sick, but COME ON….. Is it that fckin bad?????? Crysis looks stunning in every way if you have a high end system with a high end DX10 graphics card and it is also arguably the best looking game EVER.
    I seriously dont know what made you say that “now it just looks blahh” That statement of yours gave me a pinch. I am no FAN BOY and i also have all the gaming consoles(360,PS3 and Wii) but i am not a fool to actually think of selling my computer RIG just because may be i thought that Crysis dint play the way it was meant to be played or because it looks ok. I will say it again and a million times if i have to, CRYSIS looks like HEAVEN and any one who says it doesnt then i feel sorry for them. I can go all day with what i have to say but all i can suggest you is buy a good 20″ LCD screen and a Nvidia 8800GT card, pair it up in SLI if you can afford,throw in a dual core CPU and then see the magic of Crysis. It does not work like a dream on and Current gen cards or systems but it is very much playable.

  10. fart
    November 21st, 2007 | 12:30

    nice article thanks!

  11. blob
    November 21st, 2007 | 13:40

    SLI is no better apparently.
    Bring out the patches EA Crytek

  12. heisann
    November 21st, 2007 | 14:04

    Comment on Dx10.. Its true that the grafical improvment from dx 9 to dx 10 isnt that big.. The main difference is that dx10 i capable of running things more efficient and smoother, thus better framrate.

  13. Moddy
    November 21st, 2007 | 14:11

    Cevat yerli said that there will be a patch soon for increasing the performance but what they really need to do is make the A.I better. The A.I is very very very buggy. Take a look on youtube and u will find a bunch of videos of Crysis having all sorts of funny bugs.

  14. blob
    November 21st, 2007 | 14:16

    ^^
    Yes but not in Crysis dx10 runs slower in the game, it needs to be optimized or something. But it does look damm good.

  15. hobs
    November 21st, 2007 | 19:07

    @Yappi
    You obviously did not play the same game I did, Crysis obviously is the best looking game on the market right now.
    UT3 is close, but it goes more for detail than honest to goodness beauty.

    If you are running a game on low there may be a reason it looks poor.

  16. OFF
    November 21st, 2007 | 20:36

    Excellent article. I agree with most of it.
    Crysis is nothing compared with Call Of Duty 4.
    Nice graphics but… aren’t you missing something more important in FPS?

  17. iuha
    November 21st, 2007 | 23:36

    Man, stop the talking.
    It has been written earlier the lauch of crysis’s demo that IT WOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME QUALITYS AND GRAPHICS from the full version. Try to read more ;] That’s why it is a DEMO.

  18. Toni
    November 22nd, 2007 | 00:40

    Gotta add this to the beginning: I’m NOT a Crysis/Crytek/EA/whatever fanboy. This post is merely an opinion of an single gamer who enjoys cutting edge graphics. Right, now to the business.

    The article in hand is a semi-decent flamebait at most. Some points of it hold water (like the fact that you can make DX9 textures/etc to the same as with DX10 graphics setting), but the swede also seems to miss quite a few points quite liberately.

    Sure, you can make the game look pretty good on DX9 IF you haven’t actually researched all the stuff DX10 adds in it. How about: Object motion blur, soft texture particles (no cutting to 3d models), 3d waves (look stunning in motion) and not sure if parallax mapping is DX10 treat or not, atleast cvar tweaking didn’t enable it on DX9). All these things are stuff we can’t enable in DX9, and they do make a difference for visual outlook.

    I also noticed an increase in the fps by going to 64bit, unlike what the article says. I read somewhere that if you have over 3-4GB ram you should only then use 64bit, otherwise stick with the 32bit for slightly better framerates. Did they take this in to consideration?

    I don’t buy the “multi-core gives no performance increase” stuff either. I see all my four cores banging away full steam ahead when I play Crysis. If multi-core doesn’t give a performance increase, what are my other cores doing? Calculating SETI@home in secrecy?

    I tried the Crysis demo on my old pc and got pretty bad framerates (less than 20). I still loved the graphics a lot, and for graphics whores like me it only meant a total pc upgrade to come, which I had been planning for a long time anyways. So I spent a good sum of my savings, installed Vista 64 (not sure I can forgive myself), fired up Crysis and I haven’t regretted my upgrade. I can finally play it with acceptable framerates with max graphics.

    I think most of the people who whine are merely people without a enough good pc to run the game properly, and therefore they must bash it to kingdom come for no apparent reson. It was the same when Farcry was released, it’s the same deal now.

    I’m not gonna list my pc specs here by the way. I think most of the people who flood forums and chatboxes with their pc specs need to hang themself. It’s annoying. Stop it now.

  19. GATEKEEPER
    November 22nd, 2007 | 00:59

    what a waste of time…i feel sorry for all the users that went out and paid big money for the likes of the 8800’s to play this so called new technology engine..yes they have done ok but they aint done nothing compared to the likes of the development team at cod4 hq…flame throwers and the best ai was supposed to lead crysis forward……crytek if you see this then go back to basics again or learn from what you first created in farcry…better learn from the cod4 team :-)

  20. November 22nd, 2007 | 02:13

    @119 Toni: You state all your four cores “working” as evidence for crysis using all four cores! Click on the links in the articles and you will find actual benchmarks that proves Crysis dosen’t make use of four cores.

    I think you’re the one who dosen’t have an open mind here, exactly BECAUSE you spent so much money on a new system. I have a brand new top of the line system but that dosen’t mean I have to praise crysis…

  21. fluffy
    November 22nd, 2007 | 03:45

    you guys suck. plainly.

    Guaranteed 99% of you didn’t pay a cent for crysis, and are still whining like a bunch of spoilt little mama’s girls who’ve just lost the head off their barbie doll.

    Even if it isn’t the greatest game in history, lot’s of programmers,artists, and physics/sound engineers put in some hard work producing this game. It’s their livelihood and if they don’t get paid, there’s no more games. Get it?

    It’s obvious some of you don’t, and never will.

  22. Moddy
    November 22nd, 2007 | 03:48

    I agree with both Toni and ReeGed.
    We all have to accept one thing which is a bitter truth, that Crysis is IMO the BEST looking gaming my eyes have ever seen and to play it at its full glory we all need high end computers if not super computers. It is totally worth spending a fortune to get Crysis playble at the higest level of detail.
    We can say that Crytek could have done better, much better in all aspects of the game starting from the A.I, bugs and etc… and they could have also made this awesome looking game very much playable with settings all pumped up to very high, but i guess as many others have also said, they wanted to mint money from Intel and Nvidia by making us all upgrade to the best hardware possible.
    All we can do is wait for a patch that will fix all the bugs and other glitches.

  23. Sana
    November 22nd, 2007 | 18:35

    Yes… I expected crysis to be more enjoyable than this. It is the same as Farcry… in some terms Farcry is even more better. The Nano suit can fool a noob, but it is completly useless. The game too…. I played the game under DX 9 and 10, graphics were pretty much the same… I have played many games in DX 9 and 10, but I noticed very small amount of diffrence too… Sometimes DX 9 graphics were finer than 10. ( Eg : Lost Planet ) Crysis is a total failure… They marketed it well… Thats why it is holding up… EA is very good in promoting their games, so everybody talks about it. Indeed the game had nothing which Crytek n EA was boasting about…

  24. FreekOnLeash
    November 22nd, 2007 | 22:48

    It’s obvious someone touched on a vital issue ::)) just look at the comments. I think Crysis has some advantages: If you build a rig that will handle Crysis, you won’t need to upgrade your pc for quite a while. Think of Crysis as a milestone. By the way, I like sci-fi shooters , that’s way I’m defending Crysis, It’s not that great, but every game has it’s flaws.

  25. rwd
    November 23rd, 2007 | 05:16

    The folks over at Tom’s Hardware did a write up on Crysis and PC hardware. According to them from benchmarking it appeared Crysis was not optimized whatsoever for Quad core in the the Full Release.

    Crysis: Demo vs Full Version Performance

    http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2007/11/16/crysis_demo_vs_full/

  26. mark
    November 23rd, 2007 | 17:11

    This was an eye-opener for me.
    Yes, crytech can be doing this for the bucks.
    All I knew is that the crytech ai is crap.

  27. Toni
    November 25th, 2007 | 12:27

    (Repost since original one disappeared, hmm?)

    @121 ReeGed

    I never said YOU or EVERYONE should like Crysis. First phrases of my post should make that point rather clear. :)

    “I have a brand new top of the line system but that dosen’t mean I have to praise crysis…”

    Why must you bash it then? Did Crysis steal your ex-girlfriend or what’s this all about with these hate articles?

    The cash I spent on my new setup wasn’t only for Crysis you know. I’m also an graphics designer, a simulator enthusiast and tech geek and whatnot. The simple fact is, Crysis runs better than on my old computer, and that’s all what matters to me. I don’t really see the point of this “Must get everyone to hate Crysis” -paranoia is about. It’s just a game, ookay?

    I also agree totally with post 122 by fluffy. Majority of the people here didn’t pay for Crysis (including me) but yet you folks whine like no tomorrow. How about being happy that you’re being able to have something for free, eh?

    Crysis runs well enough for me, that’s all what matters. Silly articles on the intarweb won’t change my mind. I got great enjoyment playing it, now it’s collecting dust. Simple as that.

  28. hush
    November 26th, 2007 | 01:13

    The game is the best, thus it needs optimization. DOT

    You can all go whine anywhere you want; just remember that at least there is a game release which most of the gaming community is happy about…

  29. noth1n9
    November 27th, 2007 | 08:55

    My rig, 6400+ with MSI’s nx8800 ultra OC edition. I didn’t just build it for the game, I built it for my all around satisfaction; the closest I’ll ever get to being a computer engineer. Now to the point, my game runs great with all settings on high at a resolution of 1920 x 1200. At first it didn’t run so great untill I did a fresh install of my operating system. I now run a triboot setup – two for gameing and one for general perpose use. I am very happy with the game and It’s performance considering that I came from the xbox. I plan on tweaking some files to add to the diffacaulty. Don’t forget to rid your system of recourse hogging software.

  30. nickname
    November 27th, 2007 | 16:21

    @119: The effects you mentioned might be implemented in a DX10 specific form. They could be implemented for graphics cards without a geometry shader pipeline as well, but it might be slower (3d waves), or not look as good (parallax mapping; Crytek wrote about it in a paper… basically they also use real polygons for this, instead of just more pretty pixels like everyone else).

    But even though some few improvements might really need a newer graphics card it is technically unjustified to make DX10 Vista exclusive… You could get exactly the same effects (with an appropriate graphics card) on ANY operating system using OpenGL. But then you shouldn’t expect much love from Microsoft (can you say “Games for Windows”?).

    I personally just hate it when otherwise great games are degraded to marketing stunts and I guess that’s the point the article is criticizing, too.

  31. Ms
    November 29th, 2007 | 15:44

    Memmaker rules!

  32. blah
    December 5th, 2007 | 18:50

    Nearly all comments suckkks big time, bunch of stupid angry teens.

  33. Kankipappa
    December 29th, 2007 | 14:31

    It’s the Crysis (and MS) here what sucks, not the actual DX10 (what the people are blaiming it for). Direct X 10 is/will be good, and probably will make a lot iprovements on the future, when the programmers are going to code right dx10 code, not some “emulated” dx10 @ dx9, what every dx10 game today is. Yes atm it’s just useless and bulls**t :(

    And I need to prove this? well of course i can’t… Unless you count in the Microsoft Flight Simulator X (ironically a MS game), what runs on Dx10 at least 5x faster and more better looking at the same time. Just need couple of years before they will make it right, not wrong line with this game.

    But all in all, Crysis was here to just boost the next-generation gfx’s, what even aren’t here yet because of lack of ATi vs Nvidia competition..

  34. Yapooza
    March 28th, 2008 | 09:32

    Im tired of seeing propaganda injected into games, as such I will not be buying this showcase eye candy.

    They will need to do much better then this if they want to push people up the hardware/software conspiracy ladder.

    Also the story line is clearly written for the average media brain washed american teenager.. absolutely cringe worthy.

    “dow u move, i kiw you amewican pig”.. ? this one’s going back on the shelf.

  35. slewer
    May 16th, 2008 | 01:43

    I agree with all that are slagging this game.
    My biggest issue with EA/Crytek is this. Im a expat living in Spain and when you buy EA games in Spain they dont have a English language install option this was the same with Far Cry and all EA games I have bought in the past few years.
    Why doesnt EA understand this, not everyone who lives in Spain speaks spanish for f**ks sake. I know spanish people who dont like playing games in Spanish and would like the bloody option. I for one will never EVER, EVER, buy another EA game untill they sort this out its a total piss off.
    Get it sorted EA cos you will lose your customers!
    I also spent almost 3 grand on a new SLI rig to play such games waste of money. UT3 and UT2K4 for me.

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