Browser test Acid3 released, noone succeeds
Just a few months after the announcement that Internet Explorer 8 successfully passed the Acid2 standards compliance test, the Web Standards Project (WaSP) announced last Monday that it unleashed Acid2’s successor, Acid3. Created to identify flaws in the way a browser renders its web pages, WaSP’s Acid tests throw down the gauntlet with difficult-to-display graphics written to accentuate browsers’ quirks. When the original Acid test was released in 1998, it helped reign in browser inconsistencies and insured that Internet Explorer, Netscape, and others handled HTML code according to specification – making web designers’ lives easier and ensuring the web rendered consistently in the future.
Acid2, with its focus on Cascading Style Sheets, seems quaint in comparison to Acid3’s objectives, which target major web standards expected to see use today and in the future. Tests are derived from many of the last few years’ development in the web’s control languages, including rendering graphics embedded in HTML code, CSS3 compliance, DOM compliance, CSS2 downloadable fonts, as well as handling new graphics formats and Unicode support. Currently, no known browser is able to correctly render the Acid3 test, which displays an animated, incrementing score counter and a series of colored boxes with some description text. Most of today’s browsers scoring between 40 and 60 on the test’s 100-point scale. The results shouldn’t be too alarming as the Acid tests have always been forward-looking in nature, similarly as Futuremark’s 3DMark benchmarks for video accelerators.
Source: Dailytech
Comments(51)
i am one big homo
No arguments there…
Opera got 60… but the page looks nice
Firefox got 50 but the page is completely f*d up.
unsuprisingly.. IE7’s page is even more f*d than Firefox’s and it only got 5/100!
lol, thnx for teh info.
But I thought Apple claimed to have the best browser ever: safari. Ofcourse I tried and removed it because it instantaniously (? lol) crashed, but that was way back.
Cyanide V2.344b is ready to download, it ul pass the Acid3 “benchmarks” I’m sure.
@1 still hijacking user names and finding it amusing?
that troll needs to be banned.
http://acid3.acidtests.org/
I don’t know who’s gonna be the first to pass (Safari, Konkueror, Opera) but I bet IE will be a distant last.
Firefox 3 Beta 4 scores a 67 so that is quit good! The IE8 beta 1 doesn’t even render the test and does not give a rating at all.
GiGi If you read teh page, latest beta of FF score more then 80 and the page looks correct.
FF v2.0.0.12 gets to 50/100 so not bad
IE 6.0.2900.2180 gets 5/100 and says ‘Linktest Failed’
Go All Browsers Except IE!
~BW
That’s not correct. Firefox developer version 3.0b5pre from 2008/03/06 it’s 68.
Pretentious pile of horsecrap. People go round mentioning these tests as an excuse to extend the epeen of their favourite browser, when 99.9% of what anyone sees on the internet looks completely fine. If there was a problem, people would be noticing it and wondering why websites always look wrong. They don’t look wrong, because when someone develops a site they test it on the most popular browsers!
Theres a reason why the acid test always looks screwy, and yet no other site known to mankind has that kind of an effect. No web designer is going to make a normal website that’s as hard to render as that, because THERE IS NO BROWSER THAT CAN. It’d have to take an idiot to base his design on the capabilities of some obscure browser.
@12
You’re wrong, that’s not hard to render.
There are mistakes in the code (on purpose), and it tests how the browser behaves when encountering these mistakes.
So basically anyone having a website like that would be a double idiot.
using Safari 3.1 version my browser scored 75/100
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1lx8.png
Noir:
ever tried to do ANYTHING with css+xhtml and make it look the same on all major browsers? its a nightmare and i’m not talking about pixel-perfection which is kind of impossible with ie border/padding behaviour, im talking about major differences and dozens of strange tricks webmasters have to use. I have opera 9.2x and 9.5, i also have ff 2 and 3, and i see a big progress in both browsers (old opera 46 vs old ff 50, new opera 60, new ff 68)
i just hope that one day i will make a css style that will look exactly the way i meant it to look on all browsers, without any hacks…
@12 –
standarts exist so that pages can look as inteded by the web designer WHEREVER they’re rendered. Acid test tests the standarts, doesn’t invent new ones, it’s a test inteded for the web browsers to see witch web browsers actually do what they’re supposed. If a browser does really well on an acid test a web designer can be confident his page will work as he inteded when he wrote it standart complient.
how did they render the reference?
Acid Test 3:
IE5 (Emulated by IE8) – 14 / 100
IE7 (Emulated by IE8) – 14 / 100
IE8 – 17 / 100
Firefox 2.0.0.12 – 50 / 100
Firefox 3 beta 3 – 59 / 100
Safari 3.1(525.7 Windows Beta) – 65 / 100
Opera 9.26 – 46 / 100
Note: IE8 Emulating IE7 got the same result
It’s interesting how some people who obviously never looked at a single line of HTML code seem to know everything in this matter.
Websites look OK because the designers spends lots of extra time applying hacks to make sure the result look OK in all browsers. 99% of the time these hacks are for IE since the other major browsers are better at following the standards.
If all browsers followed the same standards, rendering the same code exactly the same it would make life A LOT easier for the designers. They could use that extra time developing new cool stuff for the visitors instead.
So if IE8 (and other browsers also for that matter) get better at following standards it’s a good thing for everyone , no matter if you personally use that specific browser for your daily surfing or not.
Unfortunately even if IE8 get better it will still take some time until it affects the developer since they will still have to account for older versions until they are phased out.
@ 12 Noir, A perfect example of someone on the internet trying to up their e-penis.
This test is designed to show how browsers can improve to help developers and the advancement of the web. If it helps developers, it’ll mean they can spend less time trying to make up for the flaws in a browser and more time enhancing the site. Which is better for you is it not?
WebKit, Safari’s Nightly build of March 7th, manages to get a score of 90
@12 – have you ever tried developing anything using html+css and making it look the same in all the browsers… I guess not, because if you had tried, you wouldn’t be writing such STUPID comments… My Firefox got 50, but I’m yet to install the new 3 beta… I’m sure M$ will not pass this test, think they will pass ACID3 when others will pass ACID4 or greater. Cheers
i’m using teh internetz explorer that came with my windows 98. it is teh bomb!
Opera Prevails as expected….xD SPEED FOR THE WIN
Looks like you hit a serious nerve there, Noir. How silly of you to let reality get in the way of some good ol’ “My browser can beat up your browser” E-peen waving and good ol’ fashion MS bashing?
Like anyone cares. How pathetic do you have to be to base part of your self esteem on your choice of browser?
And, no, it is not difficult at all to write pages that look fine in all major browsers. At least not if you actually know what you’re doing.
Noir:
the reason for web sites working fine is that people like me spend 10h designing websites and 3 weeks applying hacks so the webpage works the same way for each and every browser that exists… try and make a webpage with css and html/xhtml and test it your self you idiot
it’s something like 2+2=3 (on IE) 2+2=5 (on opera) and 2+2=3.5 on (safari) got it?
@24
Opera “ef tee dubl you’
@25,
I think you’re missing the point of the test.
Let’s face it. If you are a web developer or a user that have made an active choice not to use IE then you know what this is all about, the rest don’t. There is a reason why they are still using IE and thats because they can’t, or don’t want to, understand why IE is bad. So no point trying to explain it to them. Eventually they will at least be updating to a newer version of IE when it’s forced on them via Windows update, then we won’t have to deal with IE5/6/7 any more.
Let me rephrase my previous post. If you are a web developer you know what this is about, the rest don’t. I got confused, this isn’t the thread about IE8. I don’t think a lot common users know about ACID tests, regardless of what browser they use.
It’s really funny that no one is commenting about safari and it’s great rating of 90/100. Just goes to show that we all look at failures and never look at successes. Just my two cents.
Yey for Opera!
@19
I’ve looked at a single line of HTML code. I’ve looked at plenty of single lines of HTML code.
Your attempt at diminuating me is negated with a simple statement, so try something more solid and workable as an insult next time.
@33 Noir:
Are you saying you know something about web design and still posted something like that? People never cease to amaze me. Perhaps if you read that post of mine a couple of time you will learn something, if not then go on and read my other post. End of discussion, have a nice life.
Why is the test so public? I don’t know what half the tools are that dev’s use but I’ve read about this ACID test about 10 times in the last 3 days. To me it looks as though new browsers are about to be released and this test is being used to “show off” the scores.
While I agree the test is useful for dev’s, it’s pointless to the masses. It’s not measuring features, speed of rendering pages, memory consumption, etc. So keep this test in the Dev Toolkit and put out some real benchies that the common folk can compare! 110100110 01001011
Safari on Mac would totally ace this test.
@ Noirs#1Fan–Lisp
Why shouldn’t it be public?
It’s not Web Standards Project fault that every blog under the sun is reporting its release.
What was the score for Halo 3?
Safari on Mac doesn’t ace the test but it does better than the others. I scored 74 on Safari Version 3.1 (5525.9) and 88 on Safari Webkit nightly build on my iMac
noone cares. only the nerds show any interest for acidtest. it is the page every geek linkz in their review but no developer would give a damn about it.
I got 12/100 on IE6.
My modded up firefox 2.0.0.12 got 70/100
ok.. ftw, what browswer did they use to get the pretty 100% picture?
acid test = no lifes
doesnt matter long as i can view a simple page
Firefox Minefield 3.0b5pre (Build 2008030904) scored 69/100:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5601/acid3minefield30b5preky6.png
Firefox Minefield 3.0b5pre (Build 2008030904) scored 69/100:
http://mynetimages.com/f833c59a.png
(Sorry for double posting, ImageShack is banning Releaselog)
@ Noir and 44 firefoxisuseless
Don’t be so ignorant. AcidTest is not about the Browser user. It is for the developers of browsers and for website developers. If the browser developers conform with the standards then it would make it easier for website developers to code without having to create workarounds for specific browsers.
If browser developers conform to the standard then it would in turn be easier to create GUI website creators that would produce websites that function and look the same no matter what browser you use.
@ Dislocker
“noone cares. only the nerds show any interest for acidtest. it is the page every geek linkz in their review but no developer would give a damn about it.:
no developer would give a damn? well you obviously haven’t encountered users base that use different browsers.
If web standards wasn’t so important then why would IE change it’s ways and try to conform with the standards with IE8? As most people would say IE is the most used browser so they really don’t have to conform since most users would use them anyway.
If you’re not a developer than you really don’t have to care. Just don’t waste our time with your ignorant comments
#36 – “Safari on Mac would totally ace this test.”
Current stable build of safari (3.0.4) on OS X 10.5 gets a rather disappointing score of 39, though nightly dev. builds do much better.
just checked safari 3.1 and i got lower score than firefox 3.b4.
firefox could display the blocks but only in grey. safari could not even display grey squares.
@48 epiquestions,
yes, i am a developer and still don’t care. these web standards are there to sell more “how to make compilant web sites” books, nothing more.
even, if you are a flash developer, who cares about colored boxes and DIV tags?