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		<title>By: Diodofsiz</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/british-isps-blocking-access-to-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-2963091</link>
		<dc:creator>Diodofsiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andriajimenezu</title>
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		<dc:creator>andriajimenezu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FX</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/british-isps-blocking-access-to-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-573051</link>
		<dc:creator>FX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IWF backs down on Wiki censorship
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7774102.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IWF backs down on Wiki censorship<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7774102.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7774102.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@74

There is a warning...

&quot;he filters appear to be applied because Wikimedia sites are hosting a Scorpions album  which some call child pornography.&quot; ... which some call child pornography.&quot; That not a warning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@74</p>
<p>There is a warning&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;he filters appear to be applied because Wikimedia sites are hosting a Scorpions album  which some call child pornography.&#8221; &#8230; which some call child pornography.&#8221; That not a warning?</p>
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		<title>By: ovi</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/british-isps-blocking-access-to-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-571213</link>
		<dc:creator>ovi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@all

to start this kind of discussion was the reason of the cover in the first place. so the cover works pretty well.
if you get excited by it, it is your problem. its like rotten, everyone has seen it. that is the internet ppl...
what do you expect? (and yes, there are evilminded ppl out ther)</description>
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<p>to start this kind of discussion was the reason of the cover in the first place. so the cover works pretty well.<br />
if you get excited by it, it is your problem. its like rotten, everyone has seen it. that is the internet ppl&#8230;<br />
what do you expect? (and yes, there are evilminded ppl out ther)</p>
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		<title>By: faithless</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/british-isps-blocking-access-to-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-571195</link>
		<dc:creator>faithless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous. The image is not pornographic; it is not indecent. It may be offensive, but the law in the UK (which is where the IWF has any effect) does not forbid offensive pictures, only indecent ones. 

Pictures of children, simply sitting, with few or no clothes on, are not &#039;obscene&#039; or &#039;disgusting&#039; unless the context makes them so. Anyone who thinks that they *are* is being hysterical.

What&#039;s next - banning the cover of the Blind Faith album? Someone has already mentioned the Nirvana album cover. It&#039;s time for everyone to grow up and understand that no issue is helped by people over-reacting.

For those who still have doubts, read &#039;1984&#039;, in which Winston Smith works in the Ministry of Truth where he helps out with altering photographs in order to manipulate the understanding of history - Orwell was inspired by alterations in the Soviet Union to photographs of Stalin, in which his fellow revolutionaries were progressively edited out of the original as they met their deaths during Stalin&#039;s purges. Some things are more important than a few people&#039;s hysterical urge to gather up their skirts and jump on a chair as soon as they see something which upsets them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous. The image is not pornographic; it is not indecent. It may be offensive, but the law in the UK (which is where the IWF has any effect) does not forbid offensive pictures, only indecent ones. </p>
<p>Pictures of children, simply sitting, with few or no clothes on, are not &#8216;obscene&#8217; or &#8216;disgusting&#8217; unless the context makes them so. Anyone who thinks that they *are* is being hysterical.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next &#8211; banning the cover of the Blind Faith album? Someone has already mentioned the Nirvana album cover. It&#8217;s time for everyone to grow up and understand that no issue is helped by people over-reacting.</p>
<p>For those who still have doubts, read &#8216;1984&#8242;, in which Winston Smith works in the Ministry of Truth where he helps out with altering photographs in order to manipulate the understanding of history &#8211; Orwell was inspired by alterations in the Soviet Union to photographs of Stalin, in which his fellow revolutionaries were progressively edited out of the original as they met their deaths during Stalin&#8217;s purges. Some things are more important than a few people&#8217;s hysterical urge to gather up their skirts and jump on a chair as soon as they see something which upsets them.</p>
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		<title>By: androidpirate</title>
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		<dc:creator>androidpirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lot of &quot;SICK&quot; people here! If you think there is nothing wrong with that cover? You are MAD! Common! I dare anyone to photograph their 12 years old daughter like that and see if you can do it without any guilt! This is just 100% Evil! Unless you are phedopile! Right Martin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot of &#8220;SICK&#8221; people here! If you think there is nothing wrong with that cover? You are MAD! Common! I dare anyone to photograph their 12 years old daughter like that and see if you can do it without any guilt! This is just 100% Evil! Unless you are phedopile! Right Martin?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Blackburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Blackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha Ha!

Europeans are all paedophiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha Ha!</p>
<p>Europeans are all paedophiles.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On O2 Broadband here. The normal Wikipedia page for the article is blocked but the image is not! Also https works fine. FWIW I find the album cover quite offensive - but don&#039;t agree with the censorship. Scorpions were popular when I was at school and friends of mine had this album. Anyone who wanted to see it could do so easily. Surely it is better to let people read the whole page and see the image in that context?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On O2 Broadband here. The normal Wikipedia page for the article is blocked but the image is not! Also https works fine. FWIW I find the album cover quite offensive &#8211; but don&#8217;t agree with the censorship. Scorpions were popular when I was at school and friends of mine had this album. Anyone who wanted to see it could do so easily. Surely it is better to let people read the whole page and see the image in that context?</p>
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		<title>By: hmmmz...</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmmz...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess i just broke the law...

not that it doesnt happen everyday coming to this site anyway ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess i just broke the law&#8230;</p>
<p>not that it doesnt happen everyday coming to this site anyway <img src='http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear for a second, I saw Pedobear on that cover!</description>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vodafone blocks this site (rlslog) by default, when using their WAP services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vodafone blocks this site (rlslog) by default, when using their WAP services.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@60 yes, according to the laws in the UK and the US, pictures of nude 16 year olds is child pornography. Even if the age of consent is 16 (which it should be in the US as well...) it&#039;s still illegal to take photos of them nude until they&#039;re 18.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@60 yes, according to the laws in the UK and the US, pictures of nude 16 year olds is child pornography. Even if the age of consent is 16 (which it should be in the US as well&#8230;) it&#8217;s still illegal to take photos of them nude until they&#8217;re 18.</p>
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		<title>By: Punisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24: Then don&#039;t you dare bring your children to the beach, you noob, otherwise some pedo might take a picture of them in their swimsuit and masturbate to it. Make them wear burkas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24: Then don&#8217;t you dare bring your children to the beach, you noob, otherwise some pedo might take a picture of them in their swimsuit and masturbate to it. Make them wear burkas.</p>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed this on saturday night, i was not happy. virgin media will be receiving a letter from me monday morning, this is a bloody joke. They clearly wont win!

It is actually wikipedia blocking editors not signed in, not the ISPs themselves. This is because everyone on those ISPs is being routed through proxy servers that have a small number of IP addresses so therefore it makes it impossible for wikipedia to distinguish between users as they all report the same IP address, and so makes it impossible to ban individual users. A crap situation all round!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed this on saturday night, i was not happy. virgin media will be receiving a letter from me monday morning, this is a bloody joke. They clearly wont win!</p>
<p>It is actually wikipedia blocking editors not signed in, not the ISPs themselves. This is because everyone on those ISPs is being routed through proxy servers that have a small number of IP addresses so therefore it makes it impossible for wikipedia to distinguish between users as they all report the same IP address, and so makes it impossible to ban individual users. A crap situation all round!</p>
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