BD+ DRM cracked! Is anyone other than Sony shocked?
Remember a few months back when the new AACS was cracked within a few short weeks? Now the extra copy protection Sony niavly thought would stop rippers, BD+ has reportadly been cracked as well. According to SlySoft, the makers of AnyDVD they have succsessfully circumnavigated BD+ and that the ability to rip Blu Ray discs that contain this shiny *new* protection will be included in the next version of AnyDVD. Hackers: 1, Sony: 0. Will they never learn…
Source: Engadget
Comments(38)
yay
It doesn’t dawn on them, that if dvd’s,cd’s,blu ray, were sold at a reasonable price, there’d be no need to rip em off.
live by the sword,die by the sword
Nice work guys
Can’t wait when bluerays replace dvdr…
Then maybe I could burn a few games instead of one! (Even though games will go all out and come as 26gig images, screwing game downloading for images)
No they will never learn.
Long live Hackers
**** u Sony and all other ****** that sell a game “or a movie or any other copyrighted stuff” for 60$ “or more” while u can have it quicker for free!!!
good luck sony lol
Yep, and we’ll all be pirating AnyDVD. Yarr…
Not that it really matters anyway, as the release groups will do it all for us anyway
Shiny… it’s Hackers: 2, Sony: 0. AACS?
not shocked
hmmm…
I think that even Sony isn’t shocked….
I think this is a bit “not so new” news now cause AnyDVD have had a program called AnyDVD HD for like more then a week now saying that it will rip HD or BR-D. Haven’t tested it yet though.
Good 4 us !Too bad 4 them!!HAHAHAHA!!
IN YO’ FACE !!!!!
will be there a copy ps3 games ?
I expected it to be cracked, but not so fast.
Kudos to the people who made that possible.
@12 This hack is for BD+ a further layer of protection only recently implemented on new blueray disks. The current version of AnyDVD HD will only work with blueray disks without BD+.
Is it even possible to make something “noncrackable”? =D
hahhaha owned…
@18 – as long as the content has to be viewed/displayed/somehow shown unencrypted, no, it is not possible to do something uncrackable because -by design- it is already able to be unprotected somehow, even if by the designed equipment. From that designed to equipment to the wild wild internet is a *very* small step.
Pff just 1-0?
Like 1.000.000 – 0 for the hackers.
“Is it even possible to make something “noncrackable”? =D”
Apple Logic Pro is doing a good job
@ #2
“It doesn’t dawn on them, that if dvd’s,cd’s,blu ray, were sold at a reasonable price, there’d be no need to rip em off.”
If DVD’s were sold at $1 / £1 each, everyone who downloads will still continue to download. I can quite easily afford to buy my movies, but i don’t, why…? Because I can download them for free and not have anyone stop me.
You can say we’d buy the movies all you like, but we all know its a load of BS.
now can they crack open the shop that sells disks burners and players and hand them out, they still so dear.
@ #22
Actually, assuming that “we all” know it’s a load of BS is very pretentious.
I would pay a reasonable price for anything I would really like to buy like some of these amazing Kubrick HD releases on here the past few days.
Fact is it always feels nicer to have an original copy with the case and Special Features and Director Commentary.
The sole reason I will not buy them is because they are overpriced.
@ #22
As soon as buying what you want is cheaper than paying your internet provider, everyone will stop downloading. Quite simple…
And as Bloopie (#24) said, it feels nice to have something original too
Does this mean there will soon be ripped copies of PS3 games? cause it will sure save me a lot of money.
i agree with 24, and i do buy my favorite dvd’s when i find a nice amount to ship at one time, and then it’s about 8$ a piece on avrage, and it’s much nicer when u have the original dvd-9 with the case and everything. same with music, i like supporting artists i really like and don’t get sick of after a month (like most hip-hop songs these days that the pop record company’s release!)
@22
Apple Logic Pro is protected, well, by a serial number.
If you meant the older versions, probably if Apple had a bigger market share, or Logic was not stopped being made to Windows, it was cracked for sure.
Look at Cubase. It is hard but not impossible. Just crackers don’t have that much time and manpower to break protection; if AiR was paid full time by someone, I’m 100% positive Cubase4 was already cracked long ago.
It`s completley unsuprising to everyone concerned including Sony. Sony & for that matter most companies implementing DRM know full well that:-
1) ..people will continue to pirate material.
2) ..countereasures to any DRM *WILL* be developed.
3) ..it`s their job to make this a difficult as possible.
…in a few months or so someone will develop BD+2a RC1 or something similar and the Hackers will be put to work again and the whole cycle will start again.
All media companies are working toward a busisness model and set of goals that they want. “We”, here are all working towards a business model and set of goals we want. Thiers is to make money and ours is to not pay for stuff.
Let`s get it right folk, we`re not poets, revolutionaries and heroes here we`re just folk who want stuff for FREE!
The count is more likely Hackers 200+ Sony -something…
I’m sure they just say stuff like “this will never be cracked” solely for the publicity when it finally is cracked so people will say “wow, they cracked BD+” then that subtley implants the idea that BD+ is a great thing.
#18 “uncrackable” is kind of a paradox because the answer is “no” but you can make something so hard to crack that it is pointless, or once it has been cracked you can deactivate that copy.
For example in the future when IPv6 is widely implemented and all of the appliances in your home have an IP address and are connected to the internet a media player that cross references a meta tag id# that is integrated into every frame of a movie and is irremovable. It could report the serial# of the media player, the IP address of the LAN, and the meta tag id# and cross reference it with an online database. Once the database has say 100 hits from the same meta tag id# but a different serial# from the media player it could remotely send a “do not play” and either coaster the disc or just refuse to play it once the central database has marked it as a “shared” (and therefore unauthorized) copy of the media.
This honestly is the next logical step in DRM, and is basically the technology that Dish network (or other satellite providers) use to catch some of the service thiefs; all that they have to require is that you maintain an internet connection to use their service and the rest is simple.
So basically the answer is no, nothing is “uncrackable” as far as media goes because it is intended to be viewed in an unencrypted form. However the goal of the entertainment industry is to get as many “white hats” (legit people) as possible and to make it harder and harder to view their property through “black hat” (illegal) means; although it will always be possible.
Me personally i like to stand squarely in neutrality and wear the “grey hat”. I have no qualms with downloading and watching illegal material, but when i find something that i really like i will support it. For example: The Orange box, Transformers HD DVD, the 300 BluRay, etc. I don’t think that karma will bite me in the ass for watching “The Game Plan Telesync” and then deleting it, i mean seriously Hollywood expects me to PAY money to watch that garbage ? LOL i was about to send Disney a f*cking bill for my time for watching that garbage.
Not shocked.
If it’s digital it’s not safe.
@32
How would they ensure that the meta tag is irremovable? Isn’t that the real trick?
The other issue is that consumers are smarter than media companies give them credit for. When Circuit City tried to push Divx on everyone nobody was buying. People are going to be very cautious when it comes to having to hook up your dishwasher or refrigerator to the internet. A lot of people are not using Satellite TV because of the extra phone connection required to the receiver unit. In the future houses will be built with telephone or network cables everywhere, but, most old houses don’t have network wires next to the cable jack and so on.
@34 – I agree Woo’ster… every system of protection has a weak link. Making meta tag’s impossible to remove is… impossible. Signals can be removed, blocked, scrambled, or falsified. Everyone has a unique SSN, so there’s no SSN fraud or theft in the US, right? ::picks himself up off the floor::
>> “tag id# that is integrated into every frame of a movie and is irremovable”
You mean like raster images with embedded watermarks that are supposedly impossible to remove? Programs are now available (and widespread) that “perfectly” remove those watermarks, by intelligently identifying surrounding pixels and image trends.
As for satellite tv and phone connections… I have satellite tv and no phone connection. The only reason they “want” (not need) you to have one is for the impulse purchases at Pay-Per-View pricing ($50 for a boxing match?). I have a cellphone, and that’s all I need – which is how everyone will be in the future (bring on the Gphone).
I’ll also add my support to the argument that purchased DVD’s, boxes, and bonus features are better than rips of movies… I’m just more selective, and less disappointed than I used to be, because I don’t pay money for tripe anymore.
Kudos to ‘real’ posters on this site… they’ve helped me avoid the tripe too.
There is an old saying:
“If it works, it can be reverse-engineered”
The day my fridge has an ip address I’m headin over to Amsterdam for permanent residence.
@ 37 – yeah man me too, meet u at a splif cafe and laugh at all the suckers jacked into the matrix!
DRM on microsofts WMV format was hard to circumvent but its has been done. Just love (evil grin) when my copy of FairUse4WM strips the encryption on a movie I downloaded