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Australia also considers to adopt antipiracy laws

Posted on 17.02.2008 at 22:10 in Tech News by Martin

The Australian Government will examine new legislative proposals being unveiled in Britain this week to target people who download films and music illegally. Internet service providers (ISPs) there might be legally required to take action against users who access pirated material. The music industry estimates 1 billion songs were traded illegally by Australians last year. Under the three-strikes policy, a warning would be first issued to offenders who illegally share files using peer-to-peer technology to access music, TV shows and movies free of charge. The second strike would lead to the offender’s internet access being suspended; the third would cancel the offender’s internet access.

The policy would mirror legislation being introduced in Britain, which would require ISPs to police the activities of users. Music Industry Piracy Investigations general manager Sabiene Heindl said her organisation had been lobbying for the policy for 12 months. She said action had been taken to remove illegally downloaded tracks from blogs, Cyberlocker and BitTorrent sites but this had failed to stem the estimated 2.8 million Australians downloading music illegally last year. This certainly sucks if the Government really agrees and approve the new law, but as I wrote it many times before: you can’t really stop the BitTorrent and/or internet piracy in the current form…

Source: RLSLOG readers, SMH

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  1. beenbee
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:11

    Australia….:)

  2. driftr
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:15

    The dingoes pirated our music!!! It was the RIAA that ate the babies.

  3. Gomer Pyle
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:16

    They try to keep everything out down under.

  4. bobo
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:18

    well seeing is believing!

  5. NuZZ
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:18

    Ahh I knew they were going to do this. :(
    If this goes through, at least I will be fine. HTTP :) .

  6. mase
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:21

    you can’t monitor everything all the time.
    way too much data traffic.

  7. Irritating
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:21

    God, who cares?!

  8. Meridian
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:22

    I wonder if the anti-piracy law will strike european countries (whole globe) in coming months/years/decades…
    Ridiculous.

  9. blimey gov
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:22

    anyone know if there’s anyway around this kinda thing for people in the uk and australia? i guess it depends on what the legislation stipulates – but is this really the end of file sharing in these countries? are there any IP blockers that would work? Id assume thatd be no good as it still has to go through the ISP in any case.
    Blimey Gov

  10. True Aussie
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:23

    F#*K the government. They’ve gotta catch me first.

  11. peter
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:23

    We are sorry that we are struggling citizens being ripped off by the government with soaring petrol prices and one of the highest taxed countries in the world, the highest interest rates in the western world and the highest cd prices compared to usa and uk, I forgot that the chairmen of these big music companies and the artists need the money to buy their next private jet or their next private island in the carribean, im so so so sorry!

  12. Captain Pugwash
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:24

    So are the ISP’s really going to monitor everything that people download? I’d love to see this put into practice.

  13. Pissed Aussie
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:26

    Fix the title! Bloody hell learn to spell

  14. Premoz
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:28

    Damn if Australia do this then no doubt New Zealand will follow suit!! I need to be able to download LOST and Other great TV shows because we dont get to see them for ages otherwise!!

  15. Rude Thoughtless Little Pig
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:32

    And I always thought Australia was a lot more like the US when it came to business matters, but it seems like they think a lot more like the UK instead.

    What happened to free market, capitalist ideas when it comes to business? All this government intervention is ridiculous. The government needs to stop “saving” the people from themselves.

  16. Jeremy
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:33

    @peter

    Australia is not a high taxed country, and besides, those high taxes include free health care. Stop complaining and recognize that you get what you pay for.

  17. adam
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:35

    They’ll never catch me mwahaha

  18. xtazy
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:38

    just bung another shrimp on the barbie

  19. Name
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:39

    I love laws like these, if there really were 600 million people (or whatever crazy figure cooked up this week) who shared files ‘illegally’, then there would be 600 million people worth of backlash against the legislation.

  20. Vivian
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:39

    Dingo:

    It is commonly described as an Australian wild dog, but is not restricted to Australia, nor did it originate there. Modern dingoes are found throughout Southeast Asia, mostly in small pockets of remaining natural forest, and in mainland Australia, particularly in the north. They have features in common with both wolves and modern dogs, and are regarded as more or less unchanged descendants of an early ancestor of modern dogs. The name dingo comes from the language of the Eora Aboriginal people, who were the original inhabitants of the Sydney area.

  21. jacob
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:40

    Damn. Its impossible to monitor all internet traffic, I think these proposals are there to simply scare some people from downloading. In the US people have received very large fines, and its a similar thing, catch one person and hope others get frightened and stop downloading. These scare tactics will never work!

  22. mupet0000
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:40

    This article is completely untrue. These laws ARE NOT being passed in britain AT ALL. They are just a request to the government, it’s an idea. Most of these ideas get thrown out. Something this big will require way to much man power and therefor this is not going ahead.

    This article explains that it is happening, when it hasn’t been confirmed either way.

  23. Denny Crane
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:41

    It was this legislation that drove Heath Ledger to his his death.

  24. klark kent
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:41

    Antipiracy laws? What? Up until now it’s been legal?
    LOL!

  25. Moko
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:42

    “anyone know if there’s anyway around this kinda thing for people in the uk and australia? i guess it depends on what the legislation stipulates – but is this really the end of file sharing in these countries?”

    It is not legislation.
    Neither the UK or Australia is proposing doing this.

    All that has happened is RLSLog has taken a scare-tactic story about P2P and passed it on to you as though they knew no more than any 12 year old girl reading about P2P for the first time.

  26. Jason
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:44

    Google Peer + Guardian blimey gov. We are all entitled to share this material however we want. Hollywood had it’s first billion dollar summer this year, if you have ever seen one episode of MTV Cribs I think it is safe to assume the recording industry is doing alright as well. The security measures being implemented to protect the companies material are only going to excalate until it is doing nothing more than agrevating the paying customers. LOL Long Live Piracy

  27. Liverpool
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:45

    @mupet0000

    “Something this big will require way to much man power and therefor this is not going ahead.”

    That was also said when the proposal for NHS was debated as well. And we all know how that turned out.

  28. M
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:46

    Techonology moving forward, laws moving backwards. Instead of those stupid corporation’s focusing on the pirates they should develop some kind of easy-to-use cheap service for us to buy songs and movies with our cell phones.

  29. Antje14
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:46

    martin .. i Think u mispelled “Austrlia”

  30. Mako
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:46

    ” Austrlia also considers to adopt antipiracy laws”

    BTW I don’t know what age you would need to be to write this, but pay more attention to the teacher in class, little boy.

  31. Albert
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:48

    @Jason

    What does this word mean in your comment: “excalate”?

  32. Goro
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:49

    Do the ausies realy copy everything the red coats think of ? i mean how pathetic can u get

  33. Albert
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:50

    And Martin, many of the Aussie readers of this site are upset that you forgot one of the three “a”’s in the word Australia.

  34. Alexander_Q
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:50

    How are they able to tell that what you are downloading is illegal, or do they just assume that P2P = evil?

  35. Anon
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:51

    if they do introduce it, i’m sure alot of ppl will be against it. And i’m sure there won’t be this law.

    Lets just not speak about piracy for a change. If they are allowed to do this, then how do they know that we are downloading illegal content? Pretty obvious, they will have to “big brother” all our data…. Which means emails, messages will be compromised by this new law.

    Just imagine how many companies will stop using the internet, just because of their data being monitored…

    Yes they might say “we are only checking for illegal downloads” however do you trust them? Only a small leak in the company can compromise so much.

    Lets give an example, the recent Edison Chen Scandal. He was too trusting in the “computer fixers” >.> so they screwed him over and now look at the news.

    So yea, this is not only about piracy, If the government decides to introduce this law, haha i dont think he will be elected again next year. Knowing how many “internet” users will be so pissed off with government ordering ISP’s to spy on our data…..

  36. General Lee
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:51

    @Albert

    I think he was going for the word “excellent”.

  37. extra happy
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:53

    @Albert

    I think the word he meant was “accelerate”.

  38. The_Doctor
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:55

    @25 Moko

    It isn’t the end of file sharing, simply move to usenet, which is where you should be downloading from. Unless your on a very private tracker, when you connect, they gather your IP, I use to get copyright violations relayed through my ISP like crazy. They just watch a tracker, then email abuse@ for every ISP that they catch an IP for, you can just look t your client and see who is connected. Obviously their are ways around it, but Usenet is not only safer, but hell of a lot faster. While a lot of people are waiting 3 hours for a torrent, i can down a 1 CD DVD-RIP in about 10 minutes. The biggest thing is that, I am assuming, they have to prove you are pirating. This is hard off Usenet, or if your paranoid, I have a dedicated server in Toronto that is unmetered on a 100-meg port and has a FTP server, 750 GB hard drives, that I can just send a file to, then download it from their using SFTP or SCP. Or rent your own.. Either way, usenet or FTP, they can’t really “prove” what you pulled down, unless your a mass downloader and they just show a large amount of data use, but I am sure they would need to check your drive (download it right to a USB drive). I think they just log an IP with torrent or another P2P and that is ample.

    email; torchwood2008 at mac dot com

  39. Mad Max
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:56

    @Albert

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that word he was trying to use was “escalate”.

    I could be wrong though, since he really butchered the english language with his poor spelling.

  40. gb
    February 17th, 2008 | 22:57

    NUKE THIS POST LOLOLOLOLOL.
    AUSTRALIA.
    LOLOLOLOLOL

  41. TheGreatHatsby
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:03

    Rudd should resign, i hate him. He is corrupt, What about Brian Burke? He needs 1000 people to tell him what to do (1000 celebrities and sports people).SSOORRYY kevin you suck. STOP THE BLAME GAME

  42. Senior
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:03

    Being from the states, I do not know much about Australia.

    Am I wrong in thinking that your country has a free market economy similar to the US, in that the government can not tell companies how to run their business?

    I understand that in the UK, this is possible because they have a socialist society. Is this also how Australia is?

  43. Tasshu
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:04

    Albert, i think he means escalate

    The security measures being implemented to protect the companies material are only going to ESCALATE until it is doing nothing

    ^^ i think thats the missing word anyway hehe

  44. Sam
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:06

    I told you all that the Labor party was going to be the downfall of Australia. Now it is happening.

  45. THE REAL Master Chief
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:12

    @ albert

    The word he was trying to spell is clearly excaliber

  46. Moko
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:13

    @ The_Doctor – “Moko, It isn’t the end of file sharing, simply move to usenet”

    Why would I move to usenet?
    Pay attention: IT ISN’T THE END OF ANYTHING BECAUSE IT ISN’T ANYTHING.

    This isn’t a law. It isn’t legislation being considered. It is 1 public submission proposal that is the exact same thing as the 10000 for legalising weed.

    You know that people have proposed legalising weed. When you learned this did you immediately run out and start 120 plants in your backyard?
    No, of course not. Because that’s not how laws, legislation and reality in general works.

  47. gamertag: riise343
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:13

    Would the isp’s want to enforce this as they will lose most of their customers? I for one only need 1 mb broadband if i aint downloading. an that’s free with sky.

  48. lex
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:14

    the law they want to pass is if they think you are downloading illegal stuff.. they dont need proof … they will simply say if jo blogs downloads too much a month then he must be a leecher.. so lets cut him off they dot need proof thats what sucks about the law they wanna pass

  49. rich
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:18

    THEY SHOULD BAN RLSLOG, IT IS CRAP, KIDS RUN IT WHO CANT SPELL, AND EVERYONE HERE ARE PRIC*S, F*** YOU ALL!!!!

  50. MAXp0wr
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:19

    As if Australia wasn’t going to do this..
    If we even get wind that another country is going to do something we jump right in with our co(ks out.

    “Being from the states, I do not know much about Australia.”

    Being from the states you are lucky to have even heard of Australia.. I am surprised you can spell it :)

  51. THE REAL Master Chief
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:24

    @59
    i think that is more of a stereotype, Australia did take along time to join the Kyoto protocol (did i spell that right?) what other things has Australia copied from other countries?

  52. anticapital
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:28

    “What happened to free market, capitalist ideas when it comes to business?”

    It died? we can wish anyway.

  53. nuked
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:28

    nuked!

  54. Corey Delaney
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:28

    Blame me, Corey Delaney – Internet sensation.

  55. jack bauer
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:29

    i would love to see tiscali being forced to ban all its costumers…

  56. Shs66
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:29

    At least they aren’t going into some big extremes. Also will people still get fined for downloading Movies, music, etc when caught?

  57. Ballbag
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:33

    I’m proud to be Austrlian!

  58. rossiko
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:38

    That god loves pirate geeks too.

  59. rossiko
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:40

    @51 ^^

  60. wh0is
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:42

    Sounds great, my knowledge of the aus legal system is only small but I do remember a test case recently where it turns out its ok to gang rape a child (I think she has to be up for it or dressed provocativly or somthing)

    I wonder if it is ok to share the video across p2p over there.

    Probably but so long as you do not share any music along with it.

  61. Stitch10925
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:44

    @56 (lex)

    “they will simply say if jo blogs downloads too much a month then he must be a leecher.”

    Well, then why can you buy internet with unlimited, or lets say 50 Gb download limit? Wouldn’t it be useless to get an internet connection with 50 Gb/unlimited when the police will be standing at your door saying you are a leecher?

    Besides, if you are, lets say living in a home with 6 people, you need a good internet connection, and if one of your kids happens to download music/movies legally by buying them, they can’t know if you leeched the music our bought it unless they go through all of the family’s accounts… which would in turn also break the privacy laws (which will also happen when they monitor the people’s internet activity).

    This is an endless discussion. See, here is the problem. In almost all countries the government was based on giving the people freedom, and therefore past laws to make this freedom happen. But now, the freedom is being “misused” (by us :-p), but since all the laws for freedom have been in place for such a long time, they can’t just all of a sudden limit our rights or decide to discard or bypass these laws.

    In my opinion: These laws will not get passed, it would bring the governments too much lawsuits, complaints, and grief.

    Greets

  62. a
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:44

    LOL at all the stupid ppl with unsecured wireless getting their internet cut off because thier neighbor has hopped on their network, or anyone who has 64/128 bit WEP for that matter.
    and like Peter(#11) said im sorry for stealing your overpriced crap so u can get ur new jets!!
    if any of the $#!7 i download what half decent i may feel the need to buy the REAL copy…..who am i kidding this is so much more convienient to have a XviD file i double click and it plays…..NO i think i’ll go through a stack of dvds and find the one i want, put it in the dvd player, wait for all the crap b4 i can watch a movie?? IDIOTS now wonder we rob u phukers blind.

  63. Kim
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:45

    Hopefully this law will wake up the Australian people. We are becoming much too similar to our British brothers. Let them keep their socialistic ideas, while we here down under choose to stick with capitalism.

    We have too much government already. We need less, not more.

  64. RiNgDiNgDoNg
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:46

    Austrlian ISP laws = FAIL

  65. Rhory
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:49

    @RiNgDiNgDoNg

    2 + 2 = 4

  66. mitchell_man56
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:53

    DAMN YOU “POLITICALLY CORRECT” MORONS!!
    replying to #74, I HOPE SO!

  67. a
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:54

    @ every1 whos hating on Martin for his spelling….THIS IS NOT A SPELLING TEST……IF U CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT HE MEANT THEN Y THE PHUK R U BICHING??
    SOME PPL ARE RITARDID
    and as for most of the mods here English isnt their first language, so IMO they r doing pretty good, you go write in a diff language and see how good u are!!!

  68. Jesse
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:54

    @Kim

    Totally agree. Why does it seem that Australia is suffering from increasing influence of the state? This march away from a free market economy has got to stop.

    Even though we have a higher per capita GDP thank the UK, we feel compelled to follow their moronic policies.

  69. cor
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:55

    I can see a time when a watered down version of this law will be passed in Australia but I don’t think such a law wil be passed as it is. It’s an invasion of privacy.

    I say bring it on. I’ve seen the death of community on the internet over the last 8 years with way too many gimmee gimmee kiddies. This may actually weed the little fu(kers out.

  70. Jesse
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:55

    @a

    If they are going to run a site in english, shouldn’t the site have mods who can understand and write in english?

  71. THE REAL Master Chief
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:56

    @70
    no you just need to be Aboriginal

  72. a
    February 17th, 2008 | 23:59

    @ jesse they make this site as a service to ppl like me and you! so be happy they are here!
    and if u cant understand what they are trying to say you need serious help!
    and y no post for
    Welcome.Home.Roscoe.Jenkins.CAM.READNFO.PROP3R.XviD-nDn?

  73. iNSANiA
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:00

    Austrlia? Never heard of it…

  74. Stitch10925
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:00

    @77

    I totally agree, some here are pretty immature. We are in a way a “community”. We shouldn’t be mad at one and other for being in from different country or anything. I mean, I am Belgian, but used to live in the US, what does that make me?

    All of us basically share the same problem, we are hated for downloading. The only difference is that some countries decide to take action, and some don’t.

    Ok, true, when you are writing an “official” post, the least you can do is check for errors. However, I don’t know the Releaselog people, but if they are from another country, they at least try, and are doing a pretty good job in my opinion.

  75. a
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:01

    See look at 83 can u understand what he said?? I CAN
    its not that difficult!

  76. Stitch10925
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:03

    @83

    LOL!! Mean!!

  77. Microsoft
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:08

    @9

    A VPN will work fine, anything to and from your pc will be ssl encrypted and will all go out on port 80.

  78. Lul
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:13

    Where’s Austrlia? maybe near Australia?

  79. Larry
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:14

    @Stitch10925

    Just wanted to say that I agree with you, and that your people make the best waffles in the world.

  80. geoff
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:22

    @Lul

    Australia is located just south of Germany, and just north of Italy. They were invaded by the Nazi’s in 1938, and have remained an ally ever since.

  81. sybull
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:23

    Axxo for prime minister !!!

  82. phil545
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:23

    NOOOOO damn Britain the sooner we can distance ourselves from them the better, Bring on becoming a republic i say

  83. J4ck 5h1T
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:23

    Australia is a great country, probably the best country in the world right now so it would be a real shame if Mr. Rudd allowed something like this to happen.

    This kind of legislation throws country and culture back into the dark ages and realises nothing of the ‘actual’ potential of file sharing and the very real effect it has on financial markets. Plus it’s criminalising a massive section of Au society which is a real shame coz aussies are f**kin great people (R. Murdock or Howard the coward not included)!

    I moved to Oz a while ago and man! the aussies download so much stuff. I’ve been introduced to so many new things and in return passed on the best (what I think is the best) to others who have then gone out and actually bought music, t.v. shows, books, cinema tickets etc. etc.

    I can’t see how they’re going to enforce this if it goes through and anyways, people here in Oz are so-o-o-o tech savvy they’ll easily get around it, cloned modems anyone?

    Too easy!

  84. Stitch10925
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:25

    Thanks Larry!

    For you Americans out there: In NY there is a Belgian guy driving around with a small, yellow bus selling Belgian waffles and crèpes, so if you want to try it, NY is the place to go! ^_^

    http://www.wafelsanddinges.com/index.html

  85. Revone
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:28

    To my people,

    This is just another example of the government and corporate industry attempting to stop the free flow of media and information across the internet. And this shouldn’t come as a surprise. We invest in our internet, we do pay to access this information, and that will always be enough. Even with the most restricted ISP’s, we will always have the advantage, thanks to the internet and it’s intelligent, talented community. These corporate identities are complete hypocrites. How many people here actually think when companies like Creative and dozens of others created the portable digital media devices “MP3 Players” or the Apple “I-Pods” they were really expected people to rip their compact disc catalogs into digital form and utilize them on these devices? Wrong. These companies took advantage of the Napster boom, and the pirating boom, knowing damn well the internet community downloads millions of MP3’s daily, Music Videos, Movies, Television Shows, etc. And this gave great demand. They are profiting off the same bag. Why aren’t Record Labels going after these companies? Complete hypocrites. Everybody downloads. Nobody is innocent. It’s not wrong, the internet is free and always will be.

    God bless,

    Rev

  86. ZedNinja
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:30

    Jesus, he forgot one letter. Give the guy a break…

  87. Stitch10925
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:32

    “”I can’t see how they’re going to enforce this if it goes through and anyways, people here in Oz are so-o-o-o tech savvy they’ll easily get around it, cloned modems anyone?”

    Like I said, endless discussion. They can crack copyright protection and such in just a few weeks, what makes the governments think that this can’t be bypassed or cheated?

    Even if for us all else fails, I’m pretty sure some of us downloaders know, or are crackers, so a way around it will be found. I can even imagine attacks on the servers that would track our activity if they would ever be put to use.

    The government has no chance. It’s few against many.

  88. geoff
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:36

    @Stitch10925

    What about BD+?? Still not cracked. :(

  89. Benito Mussolini's Ghost
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:37

    It’s time to take the fight against piracy to the next level !!! Every pirates that get caught should have all of his right removed and branded as a digital terrorist and then jailed and/or executed if they downloaded over 100 gigs of pirated material.

    Enough is enough and it’s time for a change !!!!

    An iron fist and a will of steel !!!!!!

    Sleigh !!!!!

  90. J4ck 5h1T
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:37

    Corporation = All the profit – none of the responsibility

  91. That Annoying Dude
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:38

    Good. In fact cut them all off from the internet! And then we can build a wall around Australia as well, and pretend they don’t exist!

    I’m only joking. I love Australia. They gave us Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    Oh wait a minute…

  92. leighdegree
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:40

    albert post 32

    he was tryin to spell ejaculate

  93. cypheunreal
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:43

    If the ‘netguardian’ software style that was freely downloadable from the government website here in Australia is anything to go by, then it will be very unlikely any anti-piracy laws would seriously effect anyone. 15 year old boy cracked the ‘no naughty websites or porn’ software in a few moments… so far i havent heard of any repairs to the software having been done either.

    Besides, are they really gonna keep a check on everyones downloading from I.P. Addresses by use of file names and private lifes of individuals? i don’t think so.

  94. DanJar
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:52

    Hey all,

    Previously working for an ISP here in Austr(a)lia, it would be a breach of current privacy laws for the ISP to actually watch what people are downloading, or where they are downloading from.. What would more than likely be the case (if it ever comes to pass, which it probably wont) Is that they will work on an a reported abuse system, similar to spam email & other uses of the internet that are against the ISP’s acceptable use policy (port scanning, forum abuse, abusive comments on blogs etc)..

    So basically, end user downloads a hit cd, RIAA or whoever log the IP address, trace it back to the isp & session time, then send the ISP an email. ISP’s email queue get the email, 1st instance they send a email to the end user, 2nd instance they also may do this or temporarily suspend the internet service till the customer calls in & they have it explained to them why they have their service suspended, 3rd instance likely cancellation of the service as in breach of Acceptable use policy.

    ISP’s will not want this to pass because they want paying customers, and while p2p users may not pay for all of their cd / movie / game purchases (although figures show there is money flowing into all 3 of these industries) they do pay for their internet service, and Australian internet prices arent exactly cheap (we still have excess usage charges with our 2 largest telco’s).

    The only benefit to the ISP’s here is that it may reduce international bandwidth requirements, thus reducing costs, which is costing ISP’s here a packet. It’s the costs of international traffic here that caused companies like Internode (one of our finest ISP’s) to jack their prices up, their higher end plan went up by $20.00 AUD to something like $89 or so (I forget, I jumped ship when that plan moved up, Im now paying $59 for 40gb per month @ 1.5mbps).

    In terms of the manpower argument, It wont really take much more if it works on the system I mentioned above because already ISP’s get flooded with spam to their abuse@ispname.com.au address, sifting through that to legitimate complaints can sometimes be a lengthy process in itself, so a few more legitimate emails to read, a standard email response to a customer using p2p and they are done.

    If anyone is interested in the state of internet in Australia, whirlpool.net.au is one of the best places to check out.

    All in all I hope that it goes no further than a scare tactic, because it would really be a shame to have to resort to using that proxy program that was put up a few weeks ago to try and hide where Im downloading from. :) (also this might drive up the likely hood of wardriving for unsecured wireless access points.)

    -=DanJar=-

  95. Crash
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:53

    @cypheunreal

    Don’t you understand that if the ISP does the checking, then all data flowing through their routers and other infrastructure would be checked at all times? Obviously the ISP will be able to examine the data of every IP address they own.

    AT&T already has router hardware that can check every packet without throughput reduction.

  96. Stitch10925
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:54

    @100 (geoff)

    It’s just a matter of time before BD+ gets cracked as well, in fact, it already seems to be underway:

    http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11745.cfm

  97. Jamer
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:56

    I am SO happy I live in Canada where file sharing is legal lol

  98. tony
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:56

    I saw a promo on the good morning show in new Zealand where the where going to talk about this tomorrow and maybe new zealand laws, ill watch tomorrow and try to get a video of it.

  99. Stitch10925
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:56

    @101 (Benito Mussolini’s Ghost)

    If you are against piracy, then why are you here on Releaselog? Some people don’t seem to know what they want ^_^

  100. cdntcareless
    February 18th, 2008 | 00:57

    @16
    I (a different Peter) agree with ‘Peter’ (@11) – what country do you live in if you think we have a free health service in Oz – true it is free (paid for by the high taxes), if you want to wait a couple of years for elective treatment – and how many doctors charge only the Medicare rate?
    To business – this sucks. I thought that the Govt had better things to do than pursue us poor downloaders; like Peter I am sorry that my activities mean that some poor record company CEO can’t buy fuel for his Learjet.

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