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Apple sues Psystar, MAC cloning company

Posted on 17.07.2008 at 03:53 in Tech News by Martin

When Florida-based Psystar, a small startup, announced that it was going to make Mac clones for dirt cheap, many rolled their eyes — they’d heard that line before. During Gil Amelio’s tenure at Apple, clones were briefly allowed, but when Steve Jobs returned to the company he carried out a campaign to purge the market of every last clone. So when Psystar announced a $399 Mac with strong specs comparable to a $949 Mac Mini desktop, many figured the end was near for the company. These thoughts were put on hold about whether Psystar would deliver, as some found a handful of evidence to indicate the company might be a farce. However, Psystar proved itself to be real, shipping units to reviewers. It also unveiled a small server lineup to compete with Apple’s niche offerings in the server market.

Not anymore. With Steve Jobs manning the helm, Apple filed suit against Psystar looking to destroy it as it has destroyed many which came before. The suit was filed July 3 in federal district court of northern California. Apple accuses Psystar of violations on shrink wrap license, trademarks, and copyright infringement. Much of this revolves around the fact that Psystar will preinstall OS X for you; a move which legal analysts said would put it in peril. Details of the complaint are finally emerging. In it, Apple tries to paint itself as simply fed up about missing components on the computers, allegations that Psystar was trying to promote itself as an Apple product, and claims that it was concerned about Psystar’s quality control.

Source: Dailytech

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  1. bob
    July 17th, 2008 | 03:59

    Apple should start selling rights to their OS like MS: reaps more money in the end.

  2. YOUR MOTHER
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:01

    OBAMA 08 B*NITCHES,

    U racist WHITE PEOPLE

    …anyways why is apple soo freaking greedy?

  3. pgi
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:02

    bad luck for apple user :D Steve Jobs wants all your money :’)

  4. robin
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:09

    cant they bring them out without OS then?
    problem solved and its not that hard for users to install themselve

  5. bog hits
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:10

    what a doosh bag I hope apple gets back every last cent he made off their name scumbag should be fined at the least

  6. Obonga
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:12

    Obonga is more racist than anyone I know (just look at the church he loved going to for 20 years), and he is more white than black you stupid dipsh!t.

  7. freitax
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:19

    yeah right, like apple has never stolen trademarks…

  8. http://www.rlslog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:25

    Newton Sues Apple…!

  9. iLuv Macs
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:25

    IMAO, Apple deserves the money i payed for them because they made something worth it.

    BTW, i’m waiting for Mac haters to say mac just for girls :-P .

  10. trust
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:30

    Just good clean business, sue the competition into nothingness…

  11. I is an idiot
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:31

    @ 6…you are an idiot. It takes one to know one.

  12. GRiFTER
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:34

    mac=whack

  13. steve jorbs
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:36

    psystar, i didn’t mean it! can we still be friends?

  14. Neo
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:38

    PCs rule.Custom made PC’s are way faster than Company branded Macs.
    My Spec
    Intel Core2 Extreme QX9650
    8GB RAM(2GBx4)
    4TB HDD (1TBx4)
    2 GeForce 9800 GTX in SLI Mode
    22″ TFT Screen
    7.1 HD Audio System
    Wireless Keyboard and Mouse

    OS:
    Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
    Windows XP x64
    Gentoo Linux

  15. da truth
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:38

    wow, something like that might actually get me to use osx, i personally think apple is the definition of greedy big business and refuse to support them, they really dont care about there company and refuse to bring a notebook to the masses that is reasonably priced. as for the racism, def comedy jam doesnt come close to the amount of hateful jokes ive heard so many white people tell and im talking about 100’s through my lifetime.

  16. S0LDI3R
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:43

    @4 I think That is still illegal because legally you can only run OS X on a Apple product with its logo(And a Apple sticker doesn’t count) something along that line was in the EULA I think although I haven’t read that myself just heard about it.

    Any ways why would want to buy a computer with Mac OS X on it and not get support from Apple if something with the hardware isn’t working with OS? If you do you have to rely on Psystar to come out with a patch for it not Apple since some different hardware may have been used.

  17. douchebaggington
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:46

    @ da truth – two words for you – Louis Farrakhan…nuff said. screw Steve Jobs and his legion of dufus hipsters with more money than sense. debian – FTW!

  18. Vi$ta blowes
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:48

    @ 14

    have fun with your vista infected brick. you could spend 10,000 and vista will still make your hardware run slow as possible. why would you ever install vista on a nice setup like that, when it would run 7x as fast with linux? should have went with linux or at least xp *shakes head* dumba55

  19. Nmarez
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:51

    Never buy apple, its junk.

    Specially when they start whining like lil biaches couz of a bit of competition… zzz

  20. Nmarez
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:54

    #18, Vista ROX hard, im using it, its fast and very reliable, i never have to reboot and it never crashed yet for me (7 month+ now).

    I can run Crysis DX10, everything maxed out at 60+ fps (u need more anyways? no).

    So stop whining couz u cant afford Vista :)

  21. Joe
    July 17th, 2008 | 04:56

    screw Apple, this is why I will never own one. They are to controling over everything. I was shocked when they went to intel processor but even that is controllable with their proprietary motherboard. I say let we boycott apple, give them a taste of thier own medicine.

  22. R KELLYZ BROWN PUZZY
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:00

    rs links plx

  23. james earl ray
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:01

    “The Psystar saga takes another series of turns. Not only is the website down but an examination of the suit filed by Apple shows that the Cupertino Goliath wants Psystar to recall all Open Computer and OpenServ systems sold by the company since April. It seems that Steve Jobs is out to totally sink Psystar and put an end to Mac clones.” – http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2248

  24. Apples
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:02

    Funny anecdote:
    The other day at work, the plumber unclogged the toilet and found an Apple.

  25. Betty
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:08

    maybe if apple would lower thier 500% profit margin, they wouldn’t have to worry about clones on the market… go get’em piestar… prystar… pisstar… or whatever star you are!

  26. Inshock
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:09

    regardless of nonsensical fanboyism, how is this surprising?

    A company working on American soil blatantly and admittedly attempts to copy an entire product line, one that is protected in every sense of the word (trademarks, copyrights, patents, ties with the mafia, what have you..), readily and willingly going all the way down to installing cracked software in order to make a profit. It’s tricky to see how this is going to end, Psystar’s almost worthy of a Darwin-award for this one.

  27. TUX
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:11

    You know what….screw Apple and screw Microsoft, too long has this world been raped by them. Use LINUX, free O/S free software and many flavors to suit anyone, I recommend Ubuntu ultimate for Noobs.

  28. hacker1
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:12

    the Psystar website is down? how come last time I checked I was able to load the page?
    http://www.psystar.com/index.php

  29. douchebaggington
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:12

    LOL@Betty_piestar_hilarious!how they gonna recall them? send some dirty hippie to your house and ask really nice?! WTF?!?!?!?!

  30. Abelian
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:24

    MAC != Mac

  31. mranonymous333
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:28

    @29 Hmmm… must be a routing issue with your ISP. The page loads just fine for me.

  32. qandnotu
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:33

    I love how all the Apple-bashing posters are borderline illiterate. Time to get an education kids.

  33. Demonsweat
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:40

    Atari or Commodore?

  34. Betty
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:44

    @33 / we’re not illiterate, we just have better things to do then worry about spell check… you dumb pompous a-hole!

  35. Alexander
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:47

    The monopolistic ways of Apple will keep Mac a relatively tiny corner of the market with a relatively tiny amount of software. Great for Apple, a catastrophy for its users…

    Competition is good for Mac users but if they don’t understand this, it is their problem.

  36. nohead
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:48

    Hey, that’s the pic of my Asus TM-211 pc case…

  37. DJWill_I_AM444
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:49

    Macs are for girls!

  38. Alex
    July 17th, 2008 | 05:57

    And people still refer to microsoft as “Micro$oft.”

    Who’s the monopoly now?

  39. Human_Bean
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:05

    Screw monopoly, the problem with Psystar is not the cloning of apples, it´s much more simple, Location, Location, Location. Go and setup your company in China, Russia or anywhere in South America out of the reach of any greedy bastard named Jobs, Gates or whatever. Then we´ll talk business. Not only you´ll be better located outside U.S.A., you can hire child laborers at dirt cheap prices and really make some profit! (Just kidding about child sweatshops, cause that is actually a sad reality in my country).

  40. Jimothy
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:13

    My god #29, I have a pc and I have a mac, and I can assure you that I will NEVER soil either one with the over complicated, poorly designed crap that is linux.

    And apple would obviously make far more money if they let others use mac os x, but in the end of the day, they want to ensure quality, and not just quality of the actual machine, but the continued quality of Mac OS X. Supporting lots of hardware is exactly why most mac users don’t like windows. If windows only ran on a small amount of hardware, it would run great, be more secure, faster and more optimized, but because microsoft has chosen to license windows for all PCs, they have sacrificed alot of these things that they would otherwise have better. It’s definitely good for their profits, but in my experience the only things that run better on PCs are games. Also to the person who said apple has a 500% profit margin, they don’t. It is actually under 100%, which is still much higher than most other pc manufacturers including Psystar

  41. qandnotu
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:27

    @35

    Haha, oh dear. You sound a little touchy there Betty. Did my comment cut a little close to the bone?

    I’m glad you have better things to do with your life though, like posting on rlslog, that’s great.

    Oh and by the way, if you weren’t such a dropout you wouldn’t have to rely on a computer spell check. Best of luck with everything

  42. Anon
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:32

    @41
    IMO, i used both Macs and Windows. Ive noticed that Premiere and a lot of the Adobe stuff runs faster on Windows.

    Profit margin for Apple isn’t as big as 500%….
    Profit margin for apple PCs are only around 30-40%, which still is quite high.

    I calculated for myself, lets say Newegg is cheapest retailer in the US for computer parts. I took all the specs of a generic Mac Pro (which costs $2799).

    Getting all the single parts from Newegg would only cost me approx $2000 to create the same spec computer. This would equal to around 30% profit margin then.

    However lets say add 5-10% for wholesale cheaper parts for Apple. Therefore profit margin would equal as much as 40%.

  43. HDpunk
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:33

    lol
    mac is a tiny computer company compared to MS.
    let them keep their tiny fraction of world computers

  44. taxbax
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:33

    piracy triumphs above all.

  45. taxbax
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:35

    “here, here” says a man in georgia

  46. Anon
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:37

    @44, Its funny though, Windows Users never really start a fight when something about Windows or Mac is posted.
    However its the Mac users that decide they must start the fight…

    Go online look around about threads, You will always see the a Mac user go around posting on all the windows threads trying to pick a fight.

    Where as look at the OSX threads, we windows people dun give a crap about it, so we don’t even bother posting anything.

  47. John Forbush
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:39

    While apple is a bunch of deutsch bags that need to learn that monopolies are illegal in the United States of America, thus they should be regulated through competition in the free-market.

  48. taxbax
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:41

    they should split apple up like they did bell. os. computers. electronics.

  49. who cares!!
    July 17th, 2008 | 06:56

    Get a computer that suits your needs, who cares what tag it has attached to it…too many haters!

  50. anon
    July 17th, 2008 | 07:11

    Macs are for girls!

  51. Sully
    July 17th, 2008 | 07:16

    Appl£ sucks the big one but then so does micro$oft

  52. evan
    July 17th, 2008 | 07:25

    Well, because of Apple’s suit against Psystar, I am now aware of Psystar and have spent some time looking at there products. I like what I see. Very well priced machines with any operating system you want. If after this lawsuit Psystar is still in business I think the next computer I buy will be from them, probably loaded with Ubuntu.

    Thank you Apple for showing me other options other than your overpriced machines.

  53. evan
    July 17th, 2008 | 07:30

    oops – their products not “there”

  54. s2pid
    July 17th, 2008 | 07:50

    Kalyway is the bomb….Go here and try running OSX Leopard on x86 machines http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4122511/Kalyway_Leopard_10.5.2_DVD_Intel_Amd

    awesum

  55. :(
    July 17th, 2008 | 07:55

    why is rslog so slow nowdays? since everyone left it seems to have almost changed down a gear,i now go back to to using mininova,i got storm troopers 3 & Lost Boys The Tribe yesterday! Normally i would have seen it here first?

  56. ms
    July 17th, 2008 | 08:03

    apple sucks! all their products are garage..

  57. mct
    July 17th, 2008 | 08:18

    Why is everyone still dissing apple or windows? They both make products that appeal to a certain market. If you like either one – go and buy it! No one is forcing anyone to buy the other, are they? As for the monopolies: Windows has a market share >90%, apple is currently below 10%…
    >>Wikipedia: In Economics, monopoly (also “Pure oligopoly”) exists when a specific individual or enterprise has sufficient control over a particular product or service to determine significantly the terms on which other individuals shall have access to it. [1] Monopolies are thus characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods.
    Examples of alleged and legal monopolies:
    The salt commission, a legal monopoly in China formed in 758.
    British East India Company; created as a legal trading monopoly in 1600.
    Dutch East India Company; created as a legal trading monopoly in 1602.
    U.S. Steel; anti-trust prosecution failed in 1911.
    Standard Oil; broken up in 1911.
    National Football League; survived anti-trust lawsuit in the 1960s, convicted of being an illegal monopoly in the 1980s.
    Major League Baseball; survived U.S. anti-trust litigation in 1922, though its special status is still in dispute as of 2008.
    United Aircraft and Transport Corporation; aircraft manufacturer holding company forced to divest itself of airlines in 1934.
    American Telephone & Telegraph; telecommunications giant broken up in 1982.
    !!Microsoft; settled anti-trust litigation in the U.S. in 2001; fined by the European Commission in 2004, which was upheld for the most part by the Court of First Instance of the European Communities in 2007. The fine was 1.35 Billion USD in 2008 for incompliance with the 2004 rule.[8][9] !!
    De Beers; settled charges of price fixing in the diamond trade in the 2000s.
    Joint Commission; has a monopoly over whether or not US hospitals are able to participate in the Medicare and Medicaid programs.
    Telecom New Zealand; local loop unbundling enforced by central government.
    Monsanto has been sued by competitors for anti-trust and monopolistic practices. They hold between 70% and 100% of the commercial seed market.<<
    Think before you post crap! If you can´t think for yourself then at least read before you post crap!
    If you can´t read, you´re screwed and probably use windows ;)

  58. nameless
    July 17th, 2008 | 08:28

    “Apple should start selling rights to their OS like MS: reaps more money in the end.”

    They should have done that at least before ms introduced windows 98 and 2000. Too late after that. Had they done it when windows was still in its infancy, they might have taken over the market like ms did.

  59. Andrew
    July 17th, 2008 | 08:36

    You guys think apple’s products are expensive in america, here is a price comparison in australia.

    24″ iMac 3.06GHz model
    Aust: $2999 AUD
    America: $2250 AUD

    Mac Pro with all the fruit, top of the line everything
    Aust: $29,885 AUD
    America: $21,287 AUD

    I’d love it if phystar was able to continue selling and hopefully expanded internationally, as apples local prices are just too much when you can get much more bang for your bucks from clone PCs running windows/linux.

  60. Thraprod
    July 17th, 2008 | 08:37

    I have used linux fairly extensively, and depending on what you do, it simply isn’t practical. Not enough of the big games come out on Linux for one thing, which I’ve always found odd as the Linux niche and Gamer niche seem like such similar people.

    As far as what I’m running? I’m running Vista. Why? On my old desktop, it ran everything about 10X faster than the XP install I had on before (on 512ram even). I would get the occasional blue screen with XP, but I haven’t seen a Vista blue screen yet, and I’ve been running it since Beta (how I didn’t get any in Beta, I’ll never know). As for why I’m running it now? Simple. It came on my new laptop. It is the restore partition I use once a month or so, so it just keeps things simple.

  61. Joe
    July 17th, 2008 | 09:00

    Dont be fooled by Apple, they are not the good intentioned company they make out to be. I purchased several Psystar servers for my company then went out and purchased several copies of Apples operating system to install on them. They have been running flawlessly with great tech support, but by some strange twist apple found out we are running thier OS on these computers and I was served with papers to shut down the computers due to an illegal copyright infraction. That may be why Psystar is recalling them. I bought the computers and the OS systems but because I cant fight apple I am going to be out more money, they are railroaded me and Psystar into bankrupcy. I hope to god someone can do something. About a week before I got served I had a electrical inspector in the needed to see the power supply to my Lan room. After having called the city, there was no inspector that was sent out,,,could that man have been from Apple?

  62. demorgan
    July 17th, 2008 | 09:20

    I wonder if j. jackson is going to get the same amount of crap for saying the N word that a white person would….probably not..this world is full of sh*t…

  63. demorgan
    July 17th, 2008 | 09:23

    OH, and i really dont care if someone is trying to sell quality items at a better monatary…if apple would bring the prices down then we wouldnt be seeing this in the first place….but, hey, oil companies are making 8 billion in profit….and no one is stepping in and doing anything…

  64. chatoyant
    July 17th, 2008 | 09:38

    @36. You got it right. It is not an issue of quality, it is an issue of choices.

    I’ve always known that, in general, Mac is better (and BSD, for example, better than both). But I cannot ignore that Windows is everywhere and that there are many many many more developers targeting it. The volume of choices for Windows’ users is impossible to beat right now.

    If only I had a penny for every Mac user that has asked the question: Does it run on a Mac?… little wonder Apple fanboys are rabid…

  65. noone
    July 17th, 2008 | 09:43

    these clones only prove there are ways to have cheap mac, which apple doesn’t like it because they don’t want to sell their macs for half the price…

    go die in a corner apple…

  66. spar
    July 17th, 2008 | 09:50

    Apple… Stupid corporation with a dumb boss who thinks he’s a messias, and the oblivious consumer just spending bucks like the little minions they are.

    Apple sucks. (yes, Microsoft sucks too)

  67. mupet0000
    July 17th, 2008 | 10:22

    Wow Apple are stupiddd!

    I hate their overpriced mac’s. The other company did good selling them cheaper, it shows it can be done. But they dont care.

  68. e
    July 17th, 2008 | 10:27

    Apple……the new Microsoft.

  69. 2
    July 17th, 2008 | 10:33

    aplle mac

  70. Bill Goats
    July 17th, 2008 | 10:48

    Apple sure like to hold on to their monopoly. It’s really quite blatant and I’m surprised nobody has challenged it in court.

    As for the other political discussion in here. Talk about pointless and irrelevent. Seriously.

  71. NoiZ
    July 17th, 2008 | 10:52

    Omg apple iz starting to be microsft nice u gata love this new worl order money iz everthing

    http://s1.bitefight.se/c.php?uid=27783

  72. wickido
    July 17th, 2008 | 10:54

    I the not so far future, we may expect Googletop’s© with gOS™ and Wikidesks® with WikiOS™. Or whatabout a portable Nerophone™; the software só bloated, it turned into a multipurpose phone! They will dominate the market leaving Mircosoft and Apple to eat dust! Plus(!); you get the hardware for free since you will get supported adware pre-installed. Isn’t that the kind of world we all would love to live in? ;)

  73. blobby
    July 17th, 2008 | 12:06

    74
    Your blog is really greats thanks for the info

  74. S_R
    July 17th, 2008 | 12:26

    Thats too funny… xD

    And people BIOTCH about Micro$oft being 2 greedy. Wwwowwwwww!

  75. Ted
    July 17th, 2008 | 12:53

    Since Gates owns part of apple; the computer for fruits, then I am sure he’s got his nose in this also. Besides, so few people use macs that the company really can’t afford any competition.

  76. B0B
    July 17th, 2008 | 13:06

    I hope Jobs dies of aids. He is the new bill gates.

  77. ming
    July 17th, 2008 | 13:25

    come on guys any dvdrip.or r5 CAN SOMEONE GET WANTED

  78. Paul
    July 17th, 2008 | 13:44

    @2
    you’re the racist

  79. cw
    July 17th, 2008 | 13:57

    Seems to me there are a lot of jealous whiners in the world.
    Try to do something urself instead of flaming extremely successfull ppl..

  80. Voice of the Whack man
    July 17th, 2008 | 14:16

    OMG are they still whining about racism?
    thats all we ever hear nowadays is some attention seeker whining about how awful it is to be black, instead of getting off their fat lazy arses and leading a normal life like everyone else

    Your not set apart from mainstream society for being black your set apart for being a lazy bum and not getting up at 7:00am with the rest of us to go to work for a living.

  81. TUX
    July 17th, 2008 | 14:29

    It is a shame that some people are convinced Linux is for “geeks” and overly complicated. The benefits certainly outweigh the negative. I have been involved in computers for 30 years, seen many things come and go and have had the pleasure of watching Linux develop into an amazing O/S. I love playing games and migrated from the PC/Mac as a game machine and use PS3 and Xbox 360, I was tired of games outpacing the PC. A friend who is a PC game fanatic asks me to set up games for him, which is not that difficult to do with his Kubuntu system. Just my thoughts. BTW English is my fourth language.

  82. jayrodathome
    July 17th, 2008 | 14:51

    What did apple think was going to happen once they decided to go with intel? DUH!

  83. steve
    July 17th, 2008 | 14:52

    how does this work? Apple is over-priced hardware with some realy good software (based on sales… im not a mac fan personally) they conceded that the personal “ibm” type pc market is just farther ahead so they base their design on pc specs. So its easy for a startup to come along and take some pc hardware and i dont know how but put a Mac OS on that hardware…

  84. jayrodathome
    July 17th, 2008 | 14:53

    Straight from pystar

    New to Mac: I Want a Mac

    You don’t need to spend an arm and a leg to get the full OS X Leopard experience. Apple’s Mac Mini is completely stripped and still expensive. Why would you want a stripped-down computer, anyway? You asked for a good and inexpensive computer that can run OS X and we answered with the Open Computer which is

    * less expensive than even the cheapest Apple computer out now
    * faster than most Apple computers out now
    * running arguably the best operating system available
    * ready to run out of the box when you purchase it with Leopard included. If you buy Leopard with your Open Computer we’ll install it for free

    “if you buy leopard with your open computer we will install it for free” That doesn’t seem illegal?

  85. link
    July 17th, 2008 | 14:54

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Zionist+CNN%2C+Sky+%26+Fox+Won%27t+Show+U+This+About+Israel+-Part&search_type=

    I hope i won’t get banned for posting a link to this documentary about the GAZA STRIP.

  86. kindbuddy
    July 17th, 2008 | 15:04

    @81… every race has lazy ppl… the word lazy isnt limited

  87. Tough
    July 17th, 2008 | 15:09

    62. Joe

    Probable. Why didn’t you check his papers/id/car before granting him access to private business areas? Competitors also do this type of behavior, that’s why I’ve upgraded our counter-surveillance.

    I wonder how that ‘inspector’ found you.

  88. plectrum
    July 17th, 2008 | 15:26

    Black.Gold.S01E05.DSR.XviD-OMiCRON

  89. blob
    July 17th, 2008 | 15:31

    So, no fresh releases? Posting old isn’t gonna make it better.

  90. Quaid
    July 17th, 2008 | 15:47

    Off topic but has anyone seen The Deadliest Catch S04E15?
    It was the season finale.

  91. KRAM
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:07

    @47 i think you have that backwards…

  92. John
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:08

    visit moneyonline.sosblog.com for $15 deposited straight into your paypal account

  93. John
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:09

    visit http://www.moneyonline.sosblog.com for $15 deposited straight into your paypal account

  94. Outsidemywindow
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:25

    mac just for girls

  95. josho
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:28

    Does anyone have links for The Wackness (2008) DVD SCREENER thats on ninja? I cant get it to dl or play for some reason.

  96. M$ $uck$
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:42

    @ 62

    NICE TRY.

    You are obviously a paid micro$oft shill, because its physically impossible for Vista to run faster than XP, no matter what your specs are. Using huge amounts of resources = slower no matter what your specs are. Sure, it may not be that noticeable, but it’s just not possible for vi$ta to run faster than xp. Nice try though you M$ cronie.

  97. PT
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:43

    fck doze bstards!

  98. M$ $uck$
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:44

    Sorry Joe @ 62 that last comment was for # 61 Thrapod, aka Paid Shill

  99. brOWN
    July 17th, 2008 | 16:48

    @96 josho,
    u need to install the ninja helper i think,
    so is anyone going to post on this
    Lost.Boys.The.Tribe.2008.DVDRip.XviD-FRAGMENT
    or nogrps version?

  100. me
    July 17th, 2008 | 17:04

    IF APPLE SOLD THEIR OS FOR ALL PCS THEN NO ONE WOULD BUY APPLE HARDWARE AND THE OSX WOULD TAKE MORE TIME IN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF ALL THE VARIETY.

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