@49 osx/unix is secure by default on all editions (cant say the same about most clueless users running home edition right?). Redhat and others are doing ok selling linux distributions. Linux is growing fast in the market and desktop editions are no longer a pain to configure, etc etc you are clueless.

The same permission style can be used on Windows… oh, wait, you don’t even know Windows as much as you should to criticize it… oh… ok! Sorry kid!

@iPerson, you think that by using a Mac or Linux you better secure?… guess what, all OS’s have security holes, published or not and if an experienced hacker wants something from your machine, lets say your somebody that has something wanted by a good payer, then he will get it, no matter which Linux or which Mac you’re using!

Most viruses are just jokes or curiosities made by some really smart kids that found out a flaw in a complex system like on OS. However that doesn’t mean that that particular OS is sh!t and that other OS’s, less known and used, are better!

True that a Mac isn’t as exploited as a Windows, but that’s only reason more to worry!

The same thing happened when Firefox became popular.
At first it was advertised as being safer than IE… but once it got used by a lot of these script kiddies, FX became another target! It’s more updated, but that’s just a browser, not an entire OS!

It’s also true what you said, MS needs morals, but as it needs to be more competitive?… get real? WhoTF is one of the richest men alive?

“One day, Linux is going to take the market”… yeah, that’ll never happen. Linux is used purely because it’s free… put a price sticker on that an you’ll see ppl turning around to the free alternatives like FreeBSD.
And if MS suspects that the market is going to be lost to Linux, they’ll rethink their programmers staff… “hey, if a Linux script kiddie did it why not pay him over 100G’s a year and let him work for us!?”

An OS is just as good as its programmers!

And there will always be a better programmer that can do something better than the one you’re paying!

This reminds me of Intel and AMD, as engineers for Intel went over to AMD. Because of them this fub|kin CPU market started to move!

Anyways, if you don’t like Mac, or Linux, keep it to yourself, no one is forcing you to use it. At most the gain Apple has gotten in the market along with the increase in GNU/Linux is finally giving Microsoft a reason to be competitive and well, to actually establish morals since their are other platforms for people to go to if they just don’t like Vista, or don;t want to sacrifice their basic rights to be “better secured”, or say, thy don;t want to support an OS that is purely based on DRM…. badvista.org

Apple never said the it is “immune” to attacks, but it is safer. And, it is not all that bad of an OS, it is actually pretty easy to use and powerful, and while it is NOT GNU based, it uses the same concepts, so I see the Mac as a “gateway” drug to Linux Geekdom. Plus, all Viruses or whatever you want to call them will require social engineering on the OS X platform.

so instead of bickering about how “my OS is better”, realize that your may actually suck, or is only better for certain things. One day, Linux is going to take the market, and you Microsoft people are going to be left sitting around going “how the hell do I use this”. Personally my views are, if Microsoft had taken Vista, and put a Linux based kernel under it, or any Unix style, and toned down the technicolor, Vista would be a damn good system. Oh wait, thats OS X .

Honestly, it would have massively secured Windows, and you would have a standard among OS design, including directory structure, terminal commands and etc.

“the bad guys are taking Macs seriously now,”

LOL, yeah… 1 trojan… hehehe… That’s just how serious…

However isn’t the original argument of why apple was better than windows is this:
Apple is better cuz it has no problems, if you change to apple you will not get problems since apple is so awesome.

Seems like that argument has been blown up into smithereens, since apple does give you problems!!!!

Also Trojan, Virus, Worm are almost the same thing. Speaking in Programming terms:
Virus would be a parent class to Trojan and Worm
Trojan and Worm would be children classes to Virus.

They have very similar functions, some are less malicious than others.

Its like saying a jail has criminals:
criminals = Virus
Lets take the criminal’s crimes as the effect a certain virus has on a computer.
There are murderers, these can be for example Trojan, then there are the rapists, these cam be for example a Worm.

Although they are all classified as Criminals, however each criminal has a different “effect” or different crime.

So should we start arguing over that people in jail ain’t criminals but they are rapists?!?!?!?!

It’s sad that journalists better understood malware two decades ago.

You’re a moron. Really.

So lets examine the “Hacking the system”, lets saw we mean breaking into a remote system. A “Hacker” does this to learn how the thing works, while his end result may be something other people can use, he is doing it for the joy of knowledge, and not to be malicious. After getting in, a “hacker” would tell the Admins how He/She did it. A “Cracker” would well, just delete everything on the remote system, and the purpose of getting into the remote system would be to wreak havoc, not out of a joy for knowledge

“Cracking the copy protection”. This again is a “hacker”. Most copyright is broken because people want to know how the copy protection works, it is the joy of knowledge, and it is a “challenge”. No harm is intended.

Now, another example.. Hacking a phone. if you break into a cell phone to unlock the carrier of the phone just to learn how to do it, for that challenge, you are a “hacker”. if you break into the phone to upload a virus that spreads say, via bluetooth, well, then you are a “cracker”…

So –
“Hacker” = good intentions, does it for the knowledge.
“Cracker” = just an idiot doing it to cause damage.

Their is that line of where a hacker breaks into a system for the knowledge, but then reverts to being evil and destroys the system. That would constitute a “cracker”. Also, Crackers usually use knowledge gained by “Hackers” to do bad things. So, the intentions of the act define the classification. So the writer of this trojan was a Cracker.. (also a derogatory term used by people of a darker skin to describe an annoying white boy, I.E someone that writes a stupid trojan

Learn english

Have you ever heard the terms:

“hacking into the system” or “cracking the copy protection” or “the crack is not working”.

Not the hack what’s not working, you know…