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	<title>Comments on: AMD moves to 12-core server processors</title>
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		<title>By: melancholiac</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/amd-moves-to-12-core-server-processors/comment-page-1/#comment-330876</link>
		<dc:creator>melancholiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I get the gimik AMD is trying to do.  Since they totally dropped out of the race again when Intel released Core2, and since both companies roadmaps on cores are almost the same, AMD needs to do something huge again.  Whether or not it hits or not, i guess its a chance they are taking.

On my perspective, being in the server market, i dont see the need for 12 cores, but of course this is going to be out 2 years from now at 2010.  As for now, i dont see any apps requiring that much cores except maybe for virtualization.  But even that hasn&#039;t taken off, but maybe in 2 years it might be, who knows.  Point is, its a marketing gimik, they already launched Barcelona here and it was a huge event.  I dont know how its consistent it is though when it seems they are bypassing 8 cores and going straight to 12.  I&#039;m sure by 2010 Intel also has that in the works too.  So there shouldnt be much of this being news by that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I get the gimik AMD is trying to do.  Since they totally dropped out of the race again when Intel released Core2, and since both companies roadmaps on cores are almost the same, AMD needs to do something huge again.  Whether or not it hits or not, i guess its a chance they are taking.</p>
<p>On my perspective, being in the server market, i dont see the need for 12 cores, but of course this is going to be out 2 years from now at 2010.  As for now, i dont see any apps requiring that much cores except maybe for virtualization.  But even that hasn&#8217;t taken off, but maybe in 2 years it might be, who knows.  Point is, its a marketing gimik, they already launched Barcelona here and it was a huge event.  I dont know how its consistent it is though when it seems they are bypassing 8 cores and going straight to 12.  I&#8217;m sure by 2010 Intel also has that in the works too.  So there shouldnt be much of this being news by that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27

Sao Paulo is in South America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27</p>
<p>Sao Paulo is in South America</p>
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		<title>By: megasteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>megasteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intel still wins the war with their 80 core cpu out late 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel still wins the war with their 80 core cpu out late 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: lulz</title>
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		<dc:creator>lulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@38: LOTS of uses... Encoding audio/video, rendering, virtual machines, any server of any kind (web, database, app server, etc). Perhaps games don&#039;t make use of it, but there&#039;s more to computers than gaming or watching youtube vids lol.

@40: LOL. Zeon eh? You&#039;d think someone who&#039;s into stuff like that could at least spell Xeon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@38: LOTS of uses&#8230; Encoding audio/video, rendering, virtual machines, any server of any kind (web, database, app server, etc). Perhaps games don&#8217;t make use of it, but there&#8217;s more to computers than gaming or watching youtube vids lol.</p>
<p>@40: LOL. Zeon eh? You&#8217;d think someone who&#8217;s into stuff like that could at least spell Xeon.</p>
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		<title>By: berkut</title>
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		<dc:creator>berkut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@38, 12 cores is for server market and in two years from now at that.  Anyway, servers have plenty of use for that many cores and it&#039;s being that way for over 10+ years.  You should see what database servers are like this days and I won&#039;t even go into specialized servers or super clusters.

Just to let you know, I have a database on two clustered Dual Quad (8 cores) Zeon machines.  It&#039;s nothing special like some companies have, but meets my needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@38, 12 cores is for server market and in two years from now at that.  Anyway, servers have plenty of use for that many cores and it&#8217;s being that way for over 10+ years.  You should see what database servers are like this days and I won&#8217;t even go into specialized servers or super clusters.</p>
<p>Just to let you know, I have a database on two clustered Dual Quad (8 cores) Zeon machines.  It&#8217;s nothing special like some companies have, but meets my needs.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a stupid gimmick, I bet after a while the apple cores will go rotten and start to smell. AMD you are soooo dumb!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a stupid gimmick, I bet after a while the apple cores will go rotten and start to smell. AMD you are soooo dumb!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Roboto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Roboto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 05:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds great but tell me what software can actually use 12 cores? I don&#039;t know many that even use 4 let alone 12. I&#039;m far from an expert and don&#039;t know much about server software (or hardware for that matter), so if someone can explain it a little better it would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds great but tell me what software can actually use 12 cores? I don&#8217;t know many that even use 4 let alone 12. I&#8217;m far from an expert and don&#8217;t know much about server software (or hardware for that matter), so if someone can explain it a little better it would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the more cores become more common then the less cores will become cheaper.  Once 8, cores, 12 cores, 24 cores or whatever becomes the norm then dual, triple and quad core chips will become even cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the more cores become more common then the less cores will become cheaper.  Once 8, cores, 12 cores, 24 cores or whatever becomes the norm then dual, triple and quad core chips will become even cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Roflcer of the Lawl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roflcer of the Lawl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the hell you going to do with 12 cores? AMD needs to step up for real and not like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the hell you going to do with 12 cores? AMD needs to step up for real and not like this.</p>
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		<title>By: xsdfgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>xsdfgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@31: much the inverse for me. AMD was too expensive :p

e2160 + gigabyte motherboard and 2GB PC6400 CL4 ram was 200$. And that 70$ CPU (OC&#039;ed nicely) beat the 300$ Athlon64 X2 6400+ which was AMD&#039;s top offering at the time, on every single benchmark...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@31: much the inverse for me. AMD was too expensive :p</p>
<p>e2160 + gigabyte motherboard and 2GB PC6400 CL4 ram was 200$. And that 70$ CPU (OC&#8217;ed nicely) beat the 300$ Athlon64 X2 6400+ which was AMD&#8217;s top offering at the time, on every single benchmark&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13 haha, that made your day that joke... get out more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13 haha, that made your day that joke&#8230; get out more!</p>
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		<title>By: Embers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Embers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intel may have faster cpu&#039;s and NVidia faster gfx-cards, but I&#039;m still very happy with my socket 939 AMD 4200+ X2 cpu and new Peak Radeon 3850HD 1GB gfx-card. When I bought the cpu a few years ago, Intel did not even have a dual-core and the recently bought Radeon 3850 was incredibly good value for the money. It costs about half of a 8800GT and I can play all games (e.g. Oblivion, COD4, etc) at max gfx settings. You&#039;ll not hear me complain.

People who want the fastest will pay a hefty premium and most of the time a well chosen mid-range system is more than sufficient.

I sure hope that AMD will stay in business to give Intel and NVidia some competition. AMD also has some great chipsets (690, 790) and some very nice 45W TDP cpu&#039;s for your HTPC&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel may have faster cpu&#8217;s and NVidia faster gfx-cards, but I&#8217;m still very happy with my socket 939 AMD 4200+ X2 cpu and new Peak Radeon 3850HD 1GB gfx-card. When I bought the cpu a few years ago, Intel did not even have a dual-core and the recently bought Radeon 3850 was incredibly good value for the money. It costs about half of a 8800GT and I can play all games (e.g. Oblivion, COD4, etc) at max gfx settings. You&#8217;ll not hear me complain.</p>
<p>People who want the fastest will pay a hefty premium and most of the time a well chosen mid-range system is more than sufficient.</p>
<p>I sure hope that AMD will stay in business to give Intel and NVidia some competition. AMD also has some great chipsets (690, 790) and some very nice 45W TDP cpu&#8217;s for your HTPC&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: elun</title>
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		<dc:creator>elun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 Core..?!?
is it better than my 486 cpu?
i play Mortal kombat very smoothly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 Core..?!?<br />
is it better than my 486 cpu?<br />
i play Mortal kombat very smoothly.</p>
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		<title>By: rrpostal</title>
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		<dc:creator>rrpostal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided to go AMD for my latest discount game rig. It basically came down to what I could find on the discount rack, but I am very happy with my AMD X2 5000+ black edition (the black means the multipliers and everything are unlocked for overclocking). The headroom for overclocking is amazing. A very fun chip to play with for US$75. Plus an Asus M2N-E mobo for about the same price. With DDR2 being so cheap, I got 2gb. All 3 main pieces of the puzzle for under $200, which is what I was looking at for the Intel chip alone. You can&#039;t argue that Intel is making some good CPUs though. If I got everything free, I&#039;d certainly go with Intel. For some reason I still like working with the AMDs. Maybe just wishful thinking.

Oh yeah, 12 cores is getting sort of silly. The jump to dual core was the biggest thing in PCs for a long while, but 12? That&#039;s getting goofy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to go AMD for my latest discount game rig. It basically came down to what I could find on the discount rack, but I am very happy with my AMD X2 5000+ black edition (the black means the multipliers and everything are unlocked for overclocking). The headroom for overclocking is amazing. A very fun chip to play with for US$75. Plus an Asus M2N-E mobo for about the same price. With DDR2 being so cheap, I got 2gb. All 3 main pieces of the puzzle for under $200, which is what I was looking at for the Intel chip alone. You can&#8217;t argue that Intel is making some good CPUs though. If I got everything free, I&#8217;d certainly go with Intel. For some reason I still like working with the AMDs. Maybe just wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, 12 cores is getting sort of silly. The jump to dual core was the biggest thing in PCs for a long while, but 12? That&#8217;s getting goofy.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does everyone agree that AMD isn&#039;t trying hard enough to get back the market share they lost to Intel once the Core2 came out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does everyone agree that AMD isn&#8217;t trying hard enough to get back the market share they lost to Intel once the Core2 came out?</p>
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