AMD introduces quadcore Phenom for desktops
On Tuesday, AMD announced a new version of its flagship “Black” Phenom X4, as well as two energy-efficient versions of the Phenom X4 chip. However, the AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition does not command a flagship price: AMD is charging a suggested retail price of just $235 for the 2.6-GHz chip. AMD also released the AMD Phenom X4 9350e, a 2.0-GHz processor for $195; and the AMD Phenom X4 9150e, a 1.8-GHz version for $175. All three chips are manufactured on AMD’s 65-nm process, contain 2 Mbytes of a shard level 3 cache and include 512 Kbytes of level-2 cache per core.
AMD’s new Black processor consumes 140 watts at maximum, an increase over the 9850, which consumes 125 watts. However, the chip also ships with AMD’s OverDrive software with clock multiplier control, allowing users to scale down the performance to save power, or dial it up for more performance. At Computex, Asus released a list of boards that could accept the new 140-watt Black chips. The energy-efficient Phenom X4s, on the other hand, consume no more than 65 watts in total. All of AMD’s current chips are built with 65-nanometer transistors. Processors with 45-nanometer technology are expected this year. Starting late last year, Intel moved its product line to 45 nanometers, which means more transistors on a chip to deliver better power-to-performance ratios.
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lol using one now…. its fantastically FAST!!!
still 65nm =( i love my 45nm e7200 runs quick as hell and cool as hell
Bah whatever. I’m still using my X2 6400+
I thought I was a bit of a “geek” but all that lingo sounded foreign to me lol
all and all i still get a quad core intel myself and i use to be a hardcore amd fanboy
but cant argue the numbers and the experince
Watin 4 45nm AMD chip…
howz it when compared with intel 1?
Am still using my dad’s old pc with intel P-III cassate type slot processor
AMD shipped me a Black Edition 9850 this week…still waiting on a board, but I’m going to love it I’m sure. I’m not an e-penis guy who has to have Quad 99534342 @ 23452343243Bhz. Already have an E6600 and E6400 and those are perfectly fine for all gaming and editing etc. A couple more cores = a little better for everything but gaming!
LOL… I still have an A64 3800+ in my main computer. (It’ll play a 720P encode smoothly, that’s what I care about)
my current PC components that I run go all the way back to a P-II at 294MHz (Win 95 FTW!)
I have Win3.1 running in a virtual system inside Vista.
Don’t hate me, I use Linux, and OS X too. Just not nearly as much.
Nothing beats my Commodore 64
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This is pathetic. Still perform lower than q6600, which is Intel’s oldest quad core, at stock, and doesn’t overclock nearly as well. So much for “black edition.” Cost more too.
Prices aren’t going to go down until AMD puts up some real competition against Intel. Bad for us.
Im running the 9850 BE as of two weeks ago. So far it does everything fast enough so that I don’t need to overclock it.
@12: This is pathetic. Still perform lower than q6600, which is Intel’s oldest quad core, at stock, and doesn’t overclock nearly as well. So much for “black edition.”
Really? then why does a phenom 9500 (2,2 GHz) perform better than a Q6700 (2.66 GHz) ??
FPU SinJulia:
4x Phenom 9500 – 1922
4x Core 2 Extreme QX6700 – 1497
FPU Mandal:
4x Phenom 9500 – 3750
4x Core 2 Extreme QX6700 – 2926
CPU AES:
4x Phenom 9500 – 14614
4x Core 2 Extreme QX6700 – 11924
CPU Zlib:
4x Phenom 9500 – 58517 KB/s
4x Core 2 Extreme QX6700 – 42474 KB/s
CPU Queen:
4x Phenom 9500 – 13692
4x Core 2 Extreme QX6700 – 11521
Now, just imagine the difference in scores with a 2.6 GHz phenom…
mmmm… Quad core… O_O I’ll just wait for prices to drop a bit and get one!
Phenom + 4850 or 4870 and 4gigs of mem or more. drool…
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“Really? then why does a phenom 9500 (2,2 GHz) perform better than a Q6700 (2.66 GHz) ??”
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too little, too late.
21,
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wow maybe vista will stop hanging with one of those
My Q9450 beats all these AMD offerings.
I still use an E6750 overclocked to 3.2. Its not bad performance for little money.
Single core FTW
Plus its old skool……
AMD FTW tho
Right.. On Tuesday….
Why am I using one about two weeks? 
i have intel professor and it s very fast fart but amd fast too but intel
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#19 your on some great dope the best AMD does not come close to the entry level Core 2 Quad Q6600 you have to get it to melting point to even come close and people waiting for a 45nm AMD good luck with the blown core’s problem on the 65nm they are still far from moving on to something Intel has perfected… expect something like a 25nm Intel then AMD might figure out the 45nm… With the price drop just pick up a Q9300 for under 300 its god at the moment!
Love them Phenom chips! Got one in my desktop (yes, I said desktop because only a business person or a fool carries around a target for a mugging) and it is sheet hot fast. Saving for a good sli Nvidea set of graphics go go boards now. Even without it and the crap card I have now in it, it covers the loss of Gpu power.
AMD rocks!
strongARM processor @ 206mhz FTW!!! Blows away all other processors!
just come home from shift work and its great to read this ive got a amd2 5600 dual core but would mind picking up the 4x quad for 65 watts as my motherboard only takes 65 watt.took my pc in today and changed power supply to 650 watt took out 8600 gt crap video card put in the 8800 gts and cosair 1066 2 x4gb ram only problem is the error message about the nvida uninstaller on vista.
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AMD cpus are shait now, even Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 is better than AMD Phenom X4 9850 in real world tests, sad fact but true.
well ati gave a hard time to nvidia with their 4800 series so now its time amd does the same…..
@35,
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@ 36: no they aren’t. I have an E6600 and 9850…the E6600 isn’t as good for applications that are SMP-enabled. Games aren’t to be counted as very few games take advantage of multi-core cpu’s like applications do (like Photoshop, 3dStudioMax, etc).
When it comes to Xvid/Divx/WMV/QT encoding, the Phenoms beat the E6600 pretty handily (I can prove this to you but you’ll probably still refuse to believe it). The 9850 @ 2.5Ghz/core beats up on the E6600 @ 3.2Ghz/core…but some people just can’t get rid of that fanboy cancer growing in their colon.
I am an AMD fan boy, and I feel proud to be amongst some intelligent AMD fan boys here that are speaking truth about how AMD is faster than these chopped up Intel chips. The Intel company is feeding them some false benchmarking. All they want is your money. Amd was falling off, but when the x4’s came out, they came back heavy hitting the competition.
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@Angry_Games
I seen 11 Media encoders test and summmary was E6600 is better. so stfu fanboy, you probably work for some Gebels propoganda company. can prove your lies? NO! becouse that kind proof don’t exist. so stfu LIAR!!!
BiG-ArFI,
there are no intelligent fanboys. the point is that fanboys put aside all smartness for their blind love of certain products.
I start to believe that AMD fanboys are worse than ex-ATI (now merged with AMD), Apple and Linux fans combined.
How about another contest on rlslog and the price would be brand new High-end PC or laptop instead of rapidshare subscription coz some of us prefer torrents. That would really inspire and make the best efforts out of us rlslog readers to make unique banners, image or site/forum theme. Just a suggestion though from my twisted mind. And oh, free shipping too for rlslog readers who lives outside US or Canada like me. I look forward if any staff is interested.
Omg multiplier control!
For The Love Of AMD…
Sheet….
I’ve got my 6600 OC’d to 3.5 gig on a water cooled system. No WAY is AMD beating that bang for the buck. I’ve had it stable at 3.7 gig, but since I didn’t need it, I dropped the Vcore back down and left it a a happy 3.5
I’m actually happy with all these processor releases!…
There’e just more to choose from…I have never tried AMD’s chips but I might do it soon!…
I do not know which brand is better than the other, all I know is Intel’s chips are way more expensive than AMD…
My current E6600 is getting old so I just want to test other chips by myself to know which one is better so I will not have to worry about comments form other users, like those in this site!…
Who needs all your fancy pancy Quad cores, my Atari 64 is still going strong, anyone up for tennis?
Still getting the 2 core Intel E8400. I don’t encode DivX/XviD or use Photoshop/3D Studio Max so bring on the faster dual cores for gaming!
@14, yeah mr x, I am using the same the 9850 BE and it doesn’t need overclocking- unfortunately i’ve tried and the temps go insane…i need better cooling. I’m using it alongside a X1950 Pro (512) and I can run everything on high/very high as far as gaming goes…I also have 8GB ram….
I’m not really a fanboy of any of those processors but it seems the performance of a single core amd beats the single core intel. I really don’t know how to show it on some benchmark or something like that but if I evaluate how my two very outdated single core computers work, amd is a lot smoother than the other intel one, even if I double the RAM of intel its still amd that works smoother. And I’ve also seen several system requirements of some games that requires only 1.9 Ghz of AMD but 2.2 or 2.4 on intel, don’t know if its related.
Anyways I can only evaluate the performance of those single core processors because I can’t afford to buy those new and faster ones. And maybe the way multicore processors performs or how it works is very different from single cores so my claim won’t be that strong. I tried to evaluate what is the better processor based on the comments here and the other RLSLOG post on processors but its always this messy and people are always hot-headed. I’m slowly and painfully saving money to buy a new and faster computer (likely to be a gaming computer) but the option between AMD & Intel still is very confusing.
I really hope someone would really sum up or explain which one is better not in terms of what they see on what other says or what others post on their benchmark or something but on what they really feel on the performance (e.g price, temperature, running applications, etc.) and try to tell us a real story. I’m not saying all the other comments are false but its not really helping anyone or its still too blurry for an explanation.
Peace everyone, don’t want to start a fight or insult anybody, just want to know which one is better (for real)
Stop selling garbage and go bankrupt already nobody needs you AMD – Amateur Microprocessor Designers, ATI sucks and so do you!
Intel is coming out with Nahelem. quad core with 8 threads and 45nm. AMD is still stuck with it’s fairly old fashion quad core 65nm and still it couldn’t beat the Q6600. AMD should rethink their strategy and start approaching the low end pc market.
You can’t beat my Sinclair ZX80, with the 1k memory upgrade.
(I think this is about as far down the personal computer evolutionary chart) lolz.
I found that AMD cpus run too hot.
AMDs processors will always run more stable then Intels.
my casio watch runs more stable than AMD
How does this compare to my ZX Spectrum 48k system??? Should I think about upgrading it soon?
You all are a bunch of n00bs.
rlslog.net doesn’t need your lame comments.