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	<title>Comments on: Adobe debuts with new media player</title>
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		<title>By: Emm</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-115497</link>
		<dc:creator>Emm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16, Silverlight is for .NET devs so that they don&#039;t have to learn AS and Flash... which is kinda tricky when you get deep in it! I know... been there... got some nice experiences from Flash 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16, Silverlight is for .NET devs so that they don&#8217;t have to learn AS and Flash&#8230; which is kinda tricky when you get deep in it! I know&#8230; been there&#8230; got some nice experiences from Flash 7.</p>
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		<title>By: indianpunk</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-115154</link>
		<dc:creator>indianpunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Fuck No 

Silverlight is a joke it still uses wmv as a format try keeping your IDM on while browing silverlight content it will pck up the wmv formated link directly 
Stupid microsoft just wanna compete evrywhere 

Adobe just leave alright 
and yes ur bulky adobe reader is crap as well foxit rules</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Fuck No </p>
<p>Silverlight is a joke it still uses wmv as a format try keeping your IDM on while browing silverlight content it will pck up the wmv formated link directly<br />
Stupid microsoft just wanna compete evrywhere </p>
<p>Adobe just leave alright<br />
and yes ur bulky adobe reader is crap as well foxit rules</p>
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		<title>By: lee welton</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-115093</link>
		<dc:creator>lee welton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@the RaGE

what format does that site use? its not flash?</description>
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<p>what format does that site use? its not flash?</p>
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		<title>By: the RaGE</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-115084</link>
		<dc:creator>the RaGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youtube?? googlevideo?? the future is www.tv-links.co.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youtube?? googlevideo?? the future is <a href="http://www.tv-links.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.tv-links.co.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: lee welton</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-115059</link>
		<dc:creator>lee welton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there something wrong with the current media players available? are there videos out there that we can not watch today because of the lack of video players?

and who doesn&#039;t think that flash video looks always looks like crap on youtube and google video? 

for people dissing Microsoft, their wmv videos look a hell of a lot better than this flash crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there something wrong with the current media players available? are there videos out there that we can not watch today because of the lack of video players?</p>
<p>and who doesn&#8217;t think that flash video looks always looks like crap on youtube and google video? </p>
<p>for people dissing Microsoft, their wmv videos look a hell of a lot better than this flash crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Cim</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-115028</link>
		<dc:creator>Cim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5
It&#039;s funny how you use YouTube and Goole Video examples of something good Adobe as contributed to.

Neither of those deliver any type of quality of video and it&#039;s just recently flash even started supporting full screen video. It&#039;s even just now (in the two last betas of Flash Player) that it&#039;s supported hardware acceleration of video. It&#039;s not even very good acceleration, only works in fullscreen and works horribly on youtube quality video. (just open a video from YouTube in VLC and you see what it should have been like)

Flash is not a good product. It&#039;s actually the one thing that has hurt the internet the most if you look at the big picture. It&#039;s dominance has completely killed off every single alternative over the years. I&#039;m happy to see that at least the DivX player gets some traction with sites like Stage6, since it&#039;s a helluva lot better than Flash junk in terms of quality and how the plugin is built.

I&#039;ve not tried the player that this article is about... but having one company with the marketshare that Flash has is never good. Especially when that company has horrible support for various platforms and takes years and years to give us features we all want (like fullscreen and HW acceleration for video).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5<br />
It&#8217;s funny how you use YouTube and Goole Video examples of something good Adobe as contributed to.</p>
<p>Neither of those deliver any type of quality of video and it&#8217;s just recently flash even started supporting full screen video. It&#8217;s even just now (in the two last betas of Flash Player) that it&#8217;s supported hardware acceleration of video. It&#8217;s not even very good acceleration, only works in fullscreen and works horribly on youtube quality video. (just open a video from YouTube in VLC and you see what it should have been like)</p>
<p>Flash is not a good product. It&#8217;s actually the one thing that has hurt the internet the most if you look at the big picture. It&#8217;s dominance has completely killed off every single alternative over the years. I&#8217;m happy to see that at least the DivX player gets some traction with sites like Stage6, since it&#8217;s a helluva lot better than Flash junk in terms of quality and how the plugin is built.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not tried the player that this article is about&#8230; but having one company with the marketshare that Flash has is never good. Especially when that company has horrible support for various platforms and takes years and years to give us features we all want (like fullscreen and HW acceleration for video).</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe</title>
		<link>http://www.rlslog.net/adobe-debuts-with-new-media-player/comment-page-1/#comment-114959</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rekrul - It doesn&#039;t matter what&#039;s written there, they don&#039;t give a shit about you. Nowadays, all big companies are concentrating on advertising only, not on your experience. All they want from you is to click where they want and nothing more.

Every single big company doesn&#039;t see you as a person anymore. When they look at their users they see only $$$$$$, not human beens. So fuck their media player and all their softwares, fuck them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rekrul &#8211; It doesn&#8217;t matter what&#8217;s written there, they don&#8217;t give a shit about you. Nowadays, all big companies are concentrating on advertising only, not on your experience. All they want from you is to click where they want and nothing more.</p>
<p>Every single big company doesn&#8217;t see you as a person anymore. When they look at their users they see only $$$$$$, not human beens. So fuck their media player and all their softwares, fuck them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Antje14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antje14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No... we dont!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; we dont!</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how the details section talks about how their new media player is intended to gives users the freedom to view whatever they want, whenever they want, then goes on to detail all the ways companies can force ads on users. What if I don&#039;t want to watch ads? Then it&#039;s not exactly fulfilling it&#039;s promise of letting me watch whatever I want, now is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how the details section talks about how their new media player is intended to gives users the freedom to view whatever they want, whenever they want, then goes on to detail all the ways companies can force ads on users. What if I don&#8217;t want to watch ads? Then it&#8217;s not exactly fulfilling it&#8217;s promise of letting me watch whatever I want, now is it?</p>
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		<title>By: fak0u</title>
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		<dc:creator>fak0u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>use&#039;fuckin&#039;less
forced ads ? it must be a joke...

but the average PC user does not chose its media player. And that is why WMP is so &quot;popular&quot;, because it was pre-installed, not because it is better than other players...

If Adobe promotes this new player , and includes it with, let&#039;s say, Adobe Reader... this could easily eat Real &amp; Quicktime on PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>use&#8217;fuckin&#8217;less<br />
forced ads ? it must be a joke&#8230;</p>
<p>but the average PC user does not chose its media player. And that is why WMP is so &#8220;popular&#8221;, because it was pre-installed, not because it is better than other players&#8230;</p>
<p>If Adobe promotes this new player , and includes it with, let&#8217;s say, Adobe Reader&#8230; this could easily eat Real &amp; Quicktime on PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Available here http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/mediaplayer/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Available here <a href="http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/mediaplayer/" rel="nofollow">http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/mediaplayer/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kebrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>kebrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anything adding forced ads should be useless, i don&#039;t even have intensions of trying that... now to see stream content we are forced to see ads? no thanks... i just hope they won&#039;t force to change the existing players so everyone uses this, or it will be a real step back in the streaming videos...

oh and just because you don&#039;t like windows media player doesn&#039;t mean it sucks, i&#039;ve tried a lot of players but i still prefer wmp11 (though u have a point in the DRM)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anything adding forced ads should be useless, i don&#8217;t even have intensions of trying that&#8230; now to see stream content we are forced to see ads? no thanks&#8230; i just hope they won&#8217;t force to change the existing players so everyone uses this, or it will be a real step back in the streaming videos&#8230;</p>
<p>oh and just because you don&#8217;t like windows media player doesn&#8217;t mean it sucks, i&#8217;ve tried a lot of players but i still prefer wmp11 (though u have a point in the DRM)</p>
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		<title>By: under</title>
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		<dc:creator>under</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do we really need another useless media player?&quot;

useless?  Remember, this is the same company that made youtube, google video, and streaming video for large files possible in the first place.

I can&#039;t believe you seem to be implying Microsoft is the most &quot;useful.&quot;  Funny you should even mention Silverlight, it&#039;s a disaster.  Windows Media is the #1 pusher of DRM, which seems contrary to the entire basis of the scene.

If MS has the marketshare with realplayer and wmplayer, that&#039;s a shame - because those are the two worst media players anyone could name.  Realplayer gained popularity due to their outstanding compression, but horrible quality.

Flash is the new streaming video, and I highly doubt Adobe will take on a new product, and abandon as quickly as Microsoft has always done (IE for mac anyone?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do we really need another useless media player?&#8221;</p>
<p>useless?  Remember, this is the same company that made youtube, google video, and streaming video for large files possible in the first place.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe you seem to be implying Microsoft is the most &#8220;useful.&#8221;  Funny you should even mention Silverlight, it&#8217;s a disaster.  Windows Media is the #1 pusher of DRM, which seems contrary to the entire basis of the scene.</p>
<p>If MS has the marketshare with realplayer and wmplayer, that&#8217;s a shame &#8211; because those are the two worst media players anyone could name.  Realplayer gained popularity due to their outstanding compression, but horrible quality.</p>
<p>Flash is the new streaming video, and I highly doubt Adobe will take on a new product, and abandon as quickly as Microsoft has always done (IE for mac anyone?)</p>
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		<title>By: bounce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bounce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have the whole flash technology behind them so they might do well. Only time will tell if this will be picked up by the masses or will end up as &quot;another useless media player&quot;.

RealPlayer on the other hand needs to die already, what a useless and annoying format.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have the whole flash technology behind them so they might do well. Only time will tell if this will be picked up by the masses or will end up as &#8220;another useless media player&#8221;.</p>
<p>RealPlayer on the other hand needs to die already, what a useless and annoying format.</p>
<p>BUFFERING</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
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		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMgZZzz!!11 adobe making me so wet right nowzzz../</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMgZZzz!!11 adobe making me so wet right nowzzz../</p>
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