- You’ve probably noticed there aren’t these star ratings under each post anymore. I disabled them in order to tweak the load on the server – it was extremely high lately which resulted into timeouts and database errors. I was more than shocked when I saw the difference with this rating thing enabled or disabled. It went literally from 100 to 1 and the server is blazing fast and unloaded right now, so I’ll probably keep it that way at least till we order the second dedicated machine for Releaselog, which should be quite soon.
- I received email from group mVnsupply asking me whether he/they can join Releaselog staff. I thought it’s some kind of fake email at the first time, but it’s pretty much genuine, even with PGP signature and all the stuff. Are those guys messing with us, or is it serious? Who knows, let’s wait for the reply.
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Well, i don’t miss that ranking system. @ That other news, wat are they want to do here, promote own releases?
would this be good for rlslog if they came here lik they might try n take of all together
yeah, i am also asking that question. their last release is quite old and they dont seem to release new stuff very often so i dont really get it…
I dont think its a good idea Martin…
yeh me niether. depends tho, what they offering
Hmmm… If they’re one of those rabid anti-p2p groups, then the y should obviously not get to join. If they’re not, and you think they’re qualified and that they can stay impartial, I see no real reason to not let them join.
well we got enough people right now so all i did was ask them about their reason for joining us and unless they come up with something really cool, they will be denied.
What you really need to do is optimize the rating system. I’m pretty sure a few minor tweaks (like caching the current rating alongside the rest of the post data) would keep the speed as it is now, yet enable the function
I think it would be a good idea , at least they might be able to get some scene news or release stuff before you cats ..
j005u: dunno how much do you know about this, but: the site already uses caching system and it worked in the way that it stays cached unless something on the page changes. this happened very often thanks to this rating thing, so the cache didnt really work. it had to create a new page with every new vote and every new comment. by disabling it, we allow the cache to keep the static files for much longer time and therefore decrease the server load.
what i would like to do is take a look into the guts of these two scripts and write some kind of exception which would allow the cache script to ignore the rating and vice versa, so as the result, star rating would be still working, but it would be updated only with the cache update.
finally, it’s quite obvious why it helped so much – if you take for average 100 ratings for some article (which is quite low actually), the server has to go through all those votes, compare them (there’s ip and cookie logging), count the average and then display it. our most popular article had over 10 thousand ratings so you can probably imagine how difficult it was for our lovely machine to reload that page every time…
well im new to dis its ur website and i dont know wat they will contrubuet not like i do anything but im just saying wat will they give to ur community of dis website
regarding mvnssupplier. I think you shouldn’t let them join or any other “scene” group for that matter. To me this site is about what the scene releases, written from an objective standpoint. A releaser shouldn’t review their own release
Re: mVs
I used to admin a now extinct p2p site for 2 about years so i totally understand your concerns martin regarding an email like that. I also respect the fact you conversing openly to all your members of these happenings rather than discuss them secretly with your staff like most site admins would.
Its a wonder why mVs would like to join the staff but at the same time its exciting as they are a well respected release group and would be interesting to see what they could offer. It could well be fake but this site has always had lots to offer and anyone should be proud to be a part of it.
If its genuine then it’ll be a good idea to not let them review there own releases.
much faster
Hmm, mavensupplier? Why on earth would a group that hates p2p want to help publish scene release nfo on a hugly popular p2p phriendly site?
I mean, this just doesn’t add up, the last thing they want is releases and nfos made public, which this site admittedly helps do.
Granted if they have first hand access to the site it could give them the ability to push thier releases to help get them popular, or on the other hand try to control which releases get published here and when.
I’d be very carefull with that Martin.
But if done carefully it could be groundbreaking. If this groupreally does want to join this team, why not get them to ALLOW their release to be placed on p2p, in this case NTi of course
It’s going to end up here anyways right, why not get them to agree to a partnership, work out the details, tracker and such, but for once be a scene group that actually allows their releases to be torrented.
There’s no getting around the fact that once a release is out, it makes it’s way to private trackers then public ones, why not work together to help manage and control that. They in no way have to take part in the p2p aspect, but they can just be kewl with it and not whine and bitch.
It’s a win win, the release gets shown to tons of people, and in turn can generate traffic for both sites if they acknowledge and allow their releases to be there.
Anyways, server is kicking now, loading very quickly for me again you rock
how do you know it’s their PGP signature?
i always wonder why p2p freaks (not all of us, just those stupid shitty kids) always have bad comments and too much hate to scene groups (scene is always closed comunity, it’s from begining and scene is oldest comunity for sharing files older than PC, older than amiga…..) Any group of ppl who want to follow rules can make group and try to be part of scene….
main feature of scene group is that groups is MAKING releases, not just sharing it like most of us who using p2p.. This is reason because sceners always think that we, all others, is useless…
because of all that i can’t understand why someone who hate sceners always download scene releases…. it’s act of stupidity or what??
Get rid of the rating system for good, Ive never used it, i dont even look at it on any of the posts.
It’s too ambiguous to use in this websites context, are we rating the release quality? the write up? the quality of the show in general?
as for the scene group trying to join, be wary.
Yeah, I’d get rid of the rating system. It was kind of useless.
Plus, with that group… I don’t know, it seems really fishy to me. I wouldn’t trust it, myself.
Scene groups hate p2p because others steal and rename the releases.
GOOD Scene groups love to be recogised and p2p is the biggest outlet….soooooo
GOOD Scene groups love rlslog because its a genuine p2p source that genuinely respects and reviews all the groups releases.
Its no wonder that mVs would want to be a part of rlslog because mVs are one of the best sceners and rlslog is the best scene review site at this time.
for number 23.
yes.. you right about stealing and renaming releases
but much more… they hate p2p because p2p only sharing stuff not giving or giving very little in exchange…
scene groups not want too much publicity believe or not…
scene popularity is enough because it’s closed comunity
if too much people catch eye to their name, chance to being arested rapidly increased…
they are always in cat-mouse game vs. authorities because they are ‘head’ that produce releases… so they must work in silent because if authorities cut head, body will die very soon
The rating system was naff and Rlslog’s better off without it.
You should welcome mVs, if the email’s authentic. A bona fide Scene presence on Rlslog can only do it good and as far as mVs releases go, it would give Rlslog’s postings an extra competitive edge.
Both Rlslog and mVs can benefit from each other’s prestige.
Martin-
As for me I’m going to have to quote what tarddance said as it’s what I think:
“I think you shouldn’t let them join or any other “scene” group for that matter. To me this site is about what the scene releases, written from an objective standpoint. A releaser shouldn’t review their own release”
and further while I think the star rating system should be revamped and made more specific (are we rating the post or the content…possibly the comments?)
Overall, I think you Releaselog staff is doing an Excellent Job (including Mr. X) and I hope ya’ll keep up the good work.
CHEERS!!!
Of course you gonna let mVs post here =)
it would feel very V.I.P to read their posts =)
Watch out though, you advertised this news publicly..
So people may now know your connection
again, i have feel that mVs offer is fake, because group that want respect from other scene groups and with that reputation not want to ruin their position in scene world…
because most sceners hate p2p i wonder why mVs then want to be part of p2p world?
looks like they not care about other groups.. or this is new way in p2p-scene relations?
mVs is the people who released the Simpsons movie DVDSCR eh? Cause in my mind they are legends!
1) Leave the rating system off the site…it’s better that way. Maybe a simple thumbs up/down system would be better; like Digg or Reddit.
2) I say give mVs a chance, but lay some ground rules (Sceners tend to follow rules) so that they don’t just use this site solely for their own gain. If they break the rules, boot ‘em. As a former Scenester it would be cool to get that perspective on releases again.
Give them a trial run IMHO
. And speed > gey stars heh
1) Good riddance
2) Sounds dodgy
This comment section is so great, not only is there no spam, but there are no kiddies yelling at eachother and being rude. And the best part of this (and the site as a whole) is that people like Martin take the time to anwser our questions and respond to us.
Such a great site and the staff makes us all feel like we are a part of the team.
Anyway, I don’t see how getting involved with mVs would do anything but make the site bias toward their group, and it is so important that you stay impartial.
That is so cool that you keep us updated and ask about our ideas. The staff here is so cool that it makes me tell all my friends about the site!
thanks!
It can be a real email, PFa had contacted me and AXIAL group had put a little notice about me in their NFO file. I think this groups are some of our thousands of visitors
In case you didn’t know, superfundo.com posts the genuine aXXo releases, and not the fake ones on p2p. It also has a section on other scene releases too. So if its not there, its fake. The point is we could benefit from first-hand info on new releases from mVs as i’m sure its one of the groups everyone knows posts high quality releases. lets give it a try.
P.S if its a democracy, maybe enable the voting thingie and if enough people think its good idea for them to join, then try it out
those lamers at mvs damm ..I told them to check this site bastard wanna join! It was real Mvs !
This time we stole show from Mvs for rush hour 3 !
They are still finding the english audio source! hahahah
just to put my own 2 penneth in on the mvnsupply issue…..
with technology today, anything can be replicated/copied (as we are all aware), i say just be warey!
on the flipside….maybe they have succumb to “The Way of the Torrent!” lol
prolly more down to kudos or they genuinely like and want to be part of the site.
mVs have come a long way and have released some of the best scene releases of recent months. They have been giving us great quality releases of the hottest movies. Give them a chance.
MVS joing RLSLOG? Of course it’s fake! Why the hell would a scene group, with some of the best affilled topsites, want to join a public site? It opens them up to all kinds of security risks and ridicule from the rest of the scene.
However, if it isn’t a fake has anybody thought that MVS may want to join to bring down RLSLOG from within? That would give them a huge name in the scene.
I’d not even fuck that offer with someone else’s cock!
I was thinking about maliscisous intent behind mVs offer, but I myself have been ALOT more … ummm nice as of late, maybe it is genuine, and it would be a “mVs RELEASED THIS SHIT FIRST, JUST LOOK @ RLSLOG…”
hell that would be reason enough… this site is growing exponentionally…
smells like a mole to me
I think mvs should be double checked, and if it’s true maybe more groups will want to join and then you got new iformation as it comes out right from the sources.
Witch is for a site like this valuable information!
Although it can be dangerues as well.
This needs to be taken care of with real cation.
But in the end, when dealed right with it this can work!
BIG PIMPIN!
Let them join the STAFF! This is SCENE RELEASE NEWS is it not? Why not let some of the top groups post!!? That would be awesome!
Regardless of wether they want to join or not you will never kno0w the true reasons behind this bizzare move, tbh i would open the door for them but, be a little sceptical and keep a firm grip on the key..
I have used this site for a while and would hate to see it ruined due to some mistrust..
Also thanks for the effort on this site from you and all the authors its always been fresh with the news, but as stated by a few a forum wouldnt go amiss..
plz
RegRDS caLm
lol@news#2
lol@sillyemailaddy
For the web-staff:
Hey there, why on earth would you do the star-count on the fly?
There are ofc other methods (this is how i would do it);
Do all the work when a dude press “vote”, the server looks in the SQL if there should be already a vote from this user – if not, take an integer (lets say 100, which are the number of people already voted) add +1. Now it’s 101.
Another database has all the 101 votes in it, from 1 start to 5 stars. It also holds the AVERAGE – which is calculated not on the fly, but already when another vote is put in the database.
Hope it helps.
Wankstar
If mVs would join, other scene groups would be joining as well, and it all would turn out to become a scene flame war here on rlslog.
The rating system was unneeded
I prefer the IMDB rating instead ^^
Axxo is not part of the scene, bringin him up like he is shows you know nothing.
This site is far from impartial, they allowed paid reviews.
It’s a simple as this, allowing them to join the team doesn’t give them access to the hardware, it means they could post up reviews just like any other editor, and could be edited and removed if needed.
The more you think about it, if you have any clue how the scene actually works, there isn’t a downside for rlslog.
Unless of course it’s all a ploy to get all the ips needed to completely ddos the site to hell
This news is a bit old so I don’t know if this still an ongoing issue with mVs, but what services are they interested in providing for you? Are they trying to get their releases posted on here? Even if you don’t let that happen they probably have access to a lot of information that could be very useful like access to pre-channels and insider news. I’d be interested to see what they are willing to bring to the table.
Personally i love that the rankings been removed, this sites never felt so fast.
the second they join here they’ll be scenebanned for being part of a public p2p site
so no, it’s probably not real, and if it is, it’s a joke by mVs to see the reaction on p2p people’s faces so-to-say ^^
As far as I know this is a news site, not a p2p site..
Scrap the rating system in favour of a faster site and it not being needed (too ambiguous).
And to give mVs a trial period, you can create a user profile specifying their posting rights and limitations, thus insuring security and control over what they do etc.
The flag is history,
the flag is racism.
sorry i thought this was the southpark flag debate…
I liked the vote system, it let me show my disgust for all of Mr.X’s horrible court tv posts by voting one.
Agree with both 18 and 40
either very fishy.. or very lucrative.
I will give mVs a chance.. I love their releases (anyone remember The Simpsons screener?
)
fuck rating systems tbh. the best system is right here in discussion. more often than not if its a movie i hit up the imdb link and if its anything else i usually just go by someone elses experience.
How is it going with the mvs thingy?