“STILL makes profit for some nondescript organization that holds the rights to it even after the artist is “friggin dead”.” add “without printing, publishing or distributing it” to the end of -STILL makes a profit -.-

I should have been more clear on what I was saying.

“Your premise that artists musicians get paid for their recording out front is wrong.”

This is a missunderstanding. What I said was that, “they get paid for the work they did when writing the code”
“they” should be read as webpage coders not musicians.

“why should music be any different” this simply means I think the musicians SHOULD get paid when recording. Just like any other working person. If they want to be paid after the fact, then THEY should print/publish, distribute and sell it. But then, that would be working…

My anger was not aginst the “friggin artists” my anger was that the work of a musician STILL makes profit for some nondescript organization that holds the rights to it even after the artist is “friggin dead”.

just as a sidenote, I work in the graphics industry, 3d/2d mainly, this does not change the fact that I get paid for when I work, not what I did last year…

I do understand the time it takes to produce something(even though i know of some ,by personal preference, good music that has been produced in a 25 minute jamsession…). Its just that in my personal opinion I think that recorded music is more of advertising for the true product, the artist, at a live performance.

All this is just my way of thinking, considering thats the way I view my own work. Which is done for “by the hour” pay, and I use it further as advertisement for myself by myself.

It might in that way help me to get another job, some extra work or lead to some other interesting thing. I dont expect to be paid everytime someone happens to see my work online or prints it on a t-shirt. I dont expect it no matter in what form… But then that just me, and maybe thats why Im not a millionare…

/end rant

Your premise that artists musicians get paid for their recording out front is wrong. Most musicians earn their money from the royalties paid – not from out front money.

Secondly, a large percentage of music downloaded is not created by people who can avail themselves to stage performance and thus don’t get the opportunity to play those “heavy ass concerts” you refer to.

As to the theory that music is created in a haphazard “25 minute jam session”, that is ridiculous. Just as in webpage creations, it takes many hours of hard work to create, put together and record the music you are enjoying

Spuffy, again, most artists are not “millionaires”, aren’t raking in goo-gobs of money (in fact as I stated earlier over 95% don’t even make a living wage) and truly depend on being paid.

I don’t understand your anger towards what you refer to as “friggin artists.”

Why is it that people are so willing to take advantage of others work. No one is trying to rip you off.

If you choose to share music p2p that’s o.k. and is your choice. But, please don’t deny compensation from due from downloads off of Yahoo Inc., AOL and RealNetworks Inc.

“Secondly, how many of us would be o.k. with either working for free or having someone use our creations without compensation.”

-should the same be applied to webpage creators? so that they get paid for every person who looks at their “creation”?
They get paid for the work they did when writing the code. Why should music be any different? Raking in millions even after the friggin artist is dead. Getting paid for what you did 13 years ago in a 25 minute jamsession is NOT getting paid for working… Geting paid for playing a heavy ass concert is..

The artists never get the money that sharers are sued for the so called illeagal downloads, they get a small fraction from the sales – while we are make to feel like thieves – these big companies have been ripping the artists off for millions – for years.

Hope this moves the embaressing “frightening” ads for downloading music and films into perspective –

Downloading funds terrorists you know!

So im not allowed to rip a cd or dvd I bought for my own use or for my mp3 player and this is going on. ?…..Brilliant..

If someone if making lots of money for illigally selling elses product on a website or in advertising the creators should get a cut that is fair.

I download stuff for my own use – I dont then rip to dvd or cd and sell it – thats out of order..

These guys are the pirates

Someone at these places is going to be visiting the all you can eat salad bar for sure….

Music is art, art is only worth what people will pay for it.
They should be owed nothing.

Anyone have links to this?